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in the 1930s President Franklin Delano

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Roosevelt addressed the nation through a

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series of radio broadcasts known as the

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Fireside Chats his aim was to reassure

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the common man that our society would

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recover from its troubled times well

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we're far from 1930 and I deal with a

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different kind of fire for a new era of

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worldly frustration we offer a fresh

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conversation I'm Greg carlwood and these

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are the higher side chats

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Rock Me Like a Hurricane Higher Side

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Chatters doing what we do from Sunny San

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Diego I'm Greg carlwood and we know that

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mainstream well-connected so-called

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academic sources are hard to trust on

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just about anything they tend to

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distract away from the deeper story

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deceive to protect those in the big Club

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craft the most profitable Paradigm and

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cut around the very heart of many

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subjects or omit anything that could

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lead one to get a better grasp on life

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meaning in the nearly endless power of

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mastering Altered States Of

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Consciousness so when you dive into a

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study of ancient Egypt a civilization

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that was clearly obsessed with Altered

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States Of Consciousness magical ritual

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and cultivating a deep understanding of

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life and death it gets awkward and the

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gatekeeping of those with the almighty

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egyptologist title is on Full display

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when compared to the Rogue researchers

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bypassing the conventional career path

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and taking their books films and

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research right to the people

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well that is certainly the case with

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today's guests chance Gardner and Brad

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Klausen two of the main names behind the

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very popular cult hit series magical

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Egypt which was originally based on the

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work of the late great John Anthony West

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but in Seasons two and three has gone

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above and beyond to highlight the

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incredible new discoveries of its own

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research team that have been blowing

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many Minds online and I am certainly one

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of them so let's get into it the ancient

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world reconstructors filmmaking maestros

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and counterculture egyptologists

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extraordinaire chance and Brad Brad and

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chance welcome to the higher side

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hey Greg thanks thanks for having us

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damn good intro

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I try I try and I am really lucky to be

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talking to you guys because the work

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you've done on this series is amazing

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just so people get a sense of Who's Who

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chance is the writer director editor and

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Graphics animator of the series and Brad

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you're an executive producer and one of

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the main researchers on the team I

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understand and you have a background in

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doing rock band poster design and we're

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actually Pearl Jam's in-house graphic

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designer for almost a decade just a

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little fun fact but it's this art

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background that allowed you to make some

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of the most mind-blowing discoveries in

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this series because they largely come

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from seeing what the Egyptians encoded

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into their statues art and monuments is

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yeah and I think that's sort of the main

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focus that chance and I and one of the

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other people involved in Magic Egypt too

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Gary Osborne have kind of taken a look

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at this stuff is from the perspective of

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artists looking at artwork rather than

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say you know egyptologists or

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anthropologists or you know historians

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is that we're taking a look at this from

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specifically the angle of an artist's

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take on analyzing artwork so it very

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much is built around looking at things

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from the mind of people like chance or

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myself or people who who spend their

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whole time in their Mind's Eye you know

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creating and coming up with imagery and

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encoding symbology into works of art so

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it's very much from the perspective of

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the art world

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and chance for people who are unfamiliar

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with the series how would you summarize

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the three seasons that are out because

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they all kind of have their own Focus

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really especially two and three

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there's a kind of through line for all

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the episodes that it was really an

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homage as you said in the introduction

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to a great mentor of Brads in mind this

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character John Anthony West

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as you said he was uh kind of he called

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himself a rogue egyptologist and just in

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a nutshell the way the show started was

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that in egyptology at some time back in

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the maybe 20s or 30s egyptology split

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into these two different camps and they

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were divided about really the

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interpretation of ancient Egypt one of

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the camps is the camp that wins you know

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the camp that really writes all the

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history books and

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all the things that we learned in school

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this very Orthodox interpretation of

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ancient Egypt and then there's this

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other camp that John West Was a Very

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outspoken member of that

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saw this a much smarter much more

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sophisticated and much more anomalous

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degree of technology and sophistication

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and so the traditional interpretation of

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ancient Egypt was their sort of

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primitive superstitious Savages and it

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doesn't really paint them in this very

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sophisticated picture but when you

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actually look at ancient Egypt without

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the baggage of egyptology when you come

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at it from the Arts from the visual

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mediums or engineering or medicine

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there's a lot of different fields of

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people that are contributing to magical

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Egypt who just from their own wheelhouse

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from their own expertise they look at

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ancient Egypt and say this place was

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much more sophisticated they were much

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more intelligent than we've given them

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credit for and there's something here

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that kind of speaks to the fact that we

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really have our history human history

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wrong and then there seems to be a much

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earlier chapter of humanity that it's

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really not acknowledged in Orthodox

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history

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so there's science there's this

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sophisticated philosophy there's just

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this amazing examples of thinking across

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all the disciplines that are expressed

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through the art and they're expressed

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through languages that only artists

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would understand there's a lot of

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languages that aren't can speak in and

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that artists you know Brad and I and

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graphic designers and Painters and

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sculptors we all kind of were brought up

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understanding this language visual

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language that is not really necessary to

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understand for an egyptologist or

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someone else so there's a whole

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frequency that Egypt communicates on

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that traditional egyptologists aren't

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really paying attention to and that's

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why we were able to notice so many

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things it's like this Forest of

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low-hanging fruit because if you come to

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ancient Egypt from this other school

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and you expect to find a much smarter

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much more sophisticated science it's

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there everywhere you look and so the

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first season of magical Egypt followed

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John West as he walked around these

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famous sites in Egypt and especially

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some of the oldest sites in Egypt and he

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pointed out that the very oldest

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structures from dynastic Egypt were

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built on top of incredibly old like much

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much older structures that were just as

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big and just as sophisticated but just

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incredibly worn and beaten up like tens

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of thousands of years older and so all

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over the place John West would Point

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your attention to these evidences that

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ancient Egypt as we know it and all the

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ancient world was sort of inherited from

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an even earlier chapter that isn't

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really acknowledged and so the first

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season I'd like to say the first season

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introduced a riddle

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the second two seasons are trying to

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answer that riddle like understanding

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recognizing that a riddle exists is

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different from solving the riddle and so

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for us when we start looking and we

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start seeing there's this really

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interesting sophisticated bizarre very

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occulty magical message that's coming

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through the art and all the aesthetic

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expressions of ancient Egypt

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once you understand it's there you start

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then what does it say what does it mean

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what is it trying to hide if you could

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really understand the temples in the way

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that they're speaking what is the

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message and so in season two we start

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with these incredible series of

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discoveries that Brad Klausen made that

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show that art

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it was used in this way that Salvador

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Dali and a bunch of other artists have

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used this technique where you can kind

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of hide things in art so if you know

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what you're looking for they're very

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visible but if you don't see them if

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they're not pointed out to you it's easy

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to miss

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but in the artwork in the statuary and

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in the architecture of ancient Egypt

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there are these very sophisticated

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schematics and likenesses specifically

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of brain structure and

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some of Brad's early discoveries and

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Gary Osborne as well that really got the

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project started show these incredibly

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sophisticated depictions of brain

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architecture and brain stem in the guise

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of God so they take pictures of gods and

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familiar things but combine them in a

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way where they perfectly reproduce these

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very technical models of like a brain

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stem and the hemispheres and in

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particular the diencephalon that famous

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part of you know your head your forehead

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that that Hindu cultures call the third

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so we eventually started noticing that

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why is all this brain architecture

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included in the art and when you

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understand it in context

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the temples mentioned Egypt and all of

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ancient Egypt as you also pointed out in

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your fantastic introduction are really

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about Consciousness this ultimate

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mystery of Consciousness and when later

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cultures project back on Egypt that they

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were you know superstitious deity

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worship and things like that it's really

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not giving them the full credit that it

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seems to be what we keep saying is it's

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like a handbook to human consciousness

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the more you look at the art the more

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it's telling you here's parts of the

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brain here's what they do and it's not

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just pointing at ordinary Consciousness

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but it's pointing at as you'd said

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Advanced States Of Consciousness Advance

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possibilities for Consciousness and it's

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really not only a manual for human

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consciousness but a road map to where we

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should be going

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and then the third episode gets much

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more specific specifically digging deep

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into the iconography of the Risen Cobra

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at the third eye and basically we

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explore how the Kundalini symbolism

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this just incredibly bizarre practice

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that is specifically for Consciousness

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amplification

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but it involves sexuality and Sex Magic

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and stuff

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how that is really the ultimate

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expression of Egyptian thinking and so

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in those three episodes we do basically

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there's a puzzle here what is it in the

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second one we say here's how they

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communicated and expressed this puzzle

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and in in the third season

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it's basically what is the nature of

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this thing that they're talking about

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what is the the central core beliefs of

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ancient Egypt and it's just profoundly

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strange and magical and occulty and

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psychedelic

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yeah that is a really good summary and

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the Kundalini aspect is pretty

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synchronistic for us because I just

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interviewed Dr Joanna kuyava who is kind

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of a religious scholar who was studying

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tantric texts and apparently there's one

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very specific one that is encoded but

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yet descriptive and they were just

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having kind of an academic study of it

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no kind of um you know practice involved

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but then she ended up in her

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relationship having a very spontaneous

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Kundalini experience and the description

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is just insane that you feel the energy

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like this ball of energy going through

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your body she considered it conscious

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because it would make

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decisions on where to be in her body wow

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it translated itself down into the under

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the man and he had an experience and you

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know her whole premise and her book the

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other goddess is that the goddess and

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females have kind of been pushed to the

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side in Western culture because of these

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abilities essentially if a woman is

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trained in these abilities they can

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obviously facilitate something and yet

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all the women in the archetypes are

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either harlots like Mary Magdalene or uh

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you know the sweet mother Mary and it's

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like there is no real example of just a

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strong confident well-educated deeply

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knowledgeable woman who can hand over

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the gift of the Kundalini experience so

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I loved season three because you do get

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deep into that and there are a lot of

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people that you interview who have

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experiences with it yeah and it seems

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like something that's been suppressed in

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the same way psychedelics have been

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suppressed

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yeah

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you know Graham Hancock before Graham

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Hancock got kicked off of the TED Talks

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literally the talk that got him kicked

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off was this a war on Consciousness that

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there seems to be for some reason very

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Machiavellian in my experience that

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there's this thing that is literally the

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most important thing that human beings

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can do it's self-evolutionary thing if

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you practice it on your own it's uh

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incredibly powerful and just bizarre and

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transformative when you practice it with

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a partner and it is the oddest thing in

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the world that in a culture as

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technologically sophisticated as we are

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in the west there's just no mention of

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the Kundalini phenomena and if you ever

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wondered why does the world seem so

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chaotic and empty and pointless you

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really could point to the fact that the

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suppression of magic and the suppression

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of sexuality is the reason and this is

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one of those strange subjects that hits

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right on the Nexus of magic and

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sexuality so it's super interesting it's

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one of the most fulfilling and bizarre

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and interesting things that you can

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Undertake and it might very well be the

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actual point of existence and a lot of

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people say when you're practicing this

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you're building the vehicle that you're

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going to move into when your body stops

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functioning and so there's huge

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metaphysical ramifications to studying

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this

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and for whatever reason as you just said

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it is just absolutely suppressed in the

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west so people are having these

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experiences all the time but they have

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no framework and no way to like what the

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hell was that what just happened and

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different people have different

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reactions like

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a lot of famous people through history

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have had Kundalini experiences and it

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sort of brings out whatever your innate

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superpower is so if you're a musician

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you'll you know whatever you do that

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your unique Geniuses it seems to really

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get in and amplify that and as you said

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it's a bizarre other kind of very much

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like mushrooms where you can tell

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there's an intelligence in me that isn't

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mine and it's working with my

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intelligence to take me someplace and I

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wouldn't have gone otherwise and so I'm

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glad to hear that Greg when we first

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started this very few people really

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seemed to know or to be that excited

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about Kundalini and it's there it's

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definitely there in our culture but by

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no means is it taking center stage and

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so you know it's kind of one of the

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things that we're hoping is to normalize

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this and tell people who've had the

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experience

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you're not insane this is something

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that's supposed to happen and it's sort

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of like having a wet dream in a

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Victorian society where no sexuality is

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allowed and no reference to it in

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literature can happen and you have a

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spontaneous sexual moment and you spend

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the rest of your life going what the

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hell was that and secondly how do I have

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that happen a lot more often

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and your point about the female and

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women is interesting because if you look

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at all the stories throughout mythology

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and religion it's almost always there's

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a female who sort of revives or

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rejuvenates the male be it Isis having

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to go around and find all the pieces of

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Osiris and reassemble them or be it Mary

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with Jesus or inanna and the Ishtar

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story she has to descend down into the

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underworld to go find her male

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counterpart and there is a really

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interesting aspect to this and all the

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stuff that through looking at it where

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it does seem like it's really hard to

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find

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aspects to this stuff in regards to

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women there's tons of stuff in regards

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to male and masculinity and that stuff

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and it seems to me from my perspective

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that it almost seems like always like

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the female in the stories is like the

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Midwife for the process for the male and

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it's a really interesting component to

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that and then all the stories too it's

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all about sort of the weakness of the

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male being tempted by lustful women and

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that stuff and women won't ever have

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there's never stories about a woman

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being tempted by a bunch of like ripped

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shredded hot dudes so

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it is a really interesting component

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where you have this idea of the feminine

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side of things not necessarily the

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female versus male of like gender and

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that stuff but just feminine and

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masculine as far as positive and

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negative and yin yang sort of things

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there is an interesting aspect to the

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feminine side of things being sort of

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the

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process through so that that is that is

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a really interesting component to me

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that when you think about just the

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polarity of feminine and masculine

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negative and positive that it does seem

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to be the necessary force is the

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feminine force that helps the masculine

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side kind of be reborn or be rejuvenated

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and you can get into the idea of like

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matriarchy versus patriarchy and that

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stuff but

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it does seem to imply in my sense that

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whatever the feminine aspect or that

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negative side of the polarity of a

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battery is sort of the moving force that

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gets this all going

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yes man I totally agree and to me a

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recurring theme is that people in

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Authority want the masses in Baseline

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Consciousness only because when you have

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direct experiences you start to wake up

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a little bit maybe you lose your fear of

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death maybe you wonder why you're

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working in this stupid cubicle job maybe

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you just don't care about their

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Authority anymore because they tend to

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rule by fear and these experiences can

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create Fearless people and so I think it

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might just be an unfortunate

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circumstance that one of the gateways is

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this Kundalini experience that can be

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facilitated from a female so I think the

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you know the people say that

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Christianity started as a bunch of

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little mushroom fertility Cults I've

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heard this premise talked about before

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and we also have the weird wine and

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cracker and Catholicism and it's like I

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think a lot of that is based off of an

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older more genuine

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type of real spiritual experience and

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then like some Authority came in and

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said okay we're gonna be The Gatekeepers

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we're going to be your Liaisons to God

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we'll tell you what he says don't you

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worry about it let's replace the

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mushroom with some watered-down wine and

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a cracker and let's you know suppress

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the woman's femininity and it just seems

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like especially now they've got a real

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lock on keeping us in that Baseline

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Consciousness anything that gets you

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there is either heavily suppressed we're

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completely ignorant of it or it will put

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you in a cage for several years of your

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life in the case of LSD and mushrooms

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and that kind of thing and so to study a

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culture where it seems like they were

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just extremely open and curious about

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well how far can we push this stuff it's

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really amazing and as you say the huge

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contribution to the study of egyptology

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that this series makes is these artistic

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representations of parts of the brain

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and as an audio only show it's a little

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hard to drive home just how on the nose

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these discoveries are when it comes to

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key parts of the brain being encoded in

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the statues and architecture and even

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the headdresses and representations of

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the Gods but the graphic work in the

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series makes this super obvious the Eye

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of Horus correlation with the human

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limbic system the ram Sphinx terminals

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correlating to the human brain stem

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there are statues of Diana and a statue

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of Artemis Aphasia that equal the human

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brain stem and people have always seen

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those statues with the legs fused

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together the legs are never open and

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that's because this is a encoding of the

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human brain stem again they just seem

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really obsessed with it but I guess for

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the Skeptics how do we know that this

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isn't part of that whenever you have a

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hammer everything looks like a nail kind

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of thing or as you've put it seeing G

553
00:20:56,570 --> 00:20:55,020
Jesus in the toast

554
00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:56,580
I think one of the interesting things

555
00:21:00,110 --> 00:20:58,559
I'll go back to the part about the

556
00:21:03,289 --> 00:21:00,120
juices and the toasting but to go back

557
00:21:05,690 --> 00:21:03,299
to the brain stem I mean we understand

558
00:21:07,130 --> 00:21:05,700
so little about Consciousness and I

559
00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:07,140
think one of the few things that we do

560
00:21:12,890 --> 00:21:09,600
understand is how to turn it on and turn

561
00:21:14,330 --> 00:21:12,900
it off you know when you go under for

562
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:14,340
surgery when you get any sort of

563
00:21:18,409 --> 00:21:16,559
anesthesiology or anything like that we

564
00:21:19,850 --> 00:21:18,419
understand that you can turn off how to

565
00:21:21,470 --> 00:21:19,860
turn off Consciousness and turn it on

566
00:21:22,970 --> 00:21:21,480
but that's really to the extent of what

567
00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:22,980
we know about it

568
00:21:26,690 --> 00:21:24,660
but when people have done studies about

569
00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:26,700
that about how we turn it on and off it

570
00:21:31,370 --> 00:21:29,400
always involves the brain stem and so

571
00:21:33,289 --> 00:21:31,380
there's something very important about

572
00:21:34,669 --> 00:21:33,299
the brain stem and Consciousness and it

573
00:21:36,529 --> 00:21:34,679
does seem like that human beings

574
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:36,539
throughout time have been sort of

575
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:37,679
illustrating

576
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:40,080
the brain stem as sort of a goddess as

577
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:43,200
this Creator or God type archetype and

578
00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:44,400
people could say how would they know

579
00:21:47,690 --> 00:21:46,140
about this and you can make the obvious

580
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:47,700
answer that they probably you know

581
00:21:50,690 --> 00:21:49,200
somebody's head probably got cracked

582
00:21:52,430 --> 00:21:50,700
open or they probably were able to look

583
00:21:54,289 --> 00:21:52,440
inside people's heads

584
00:21:55,970 --> 00:21:54,299
but then you could also make the case

585
00:21:57,529 --> 00:21:55,980
for again going back to psychedelic

586
00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,539
states that you maybe had Visions or you

587
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:59,280
maybe saw this stuff internally and you

588
00:22:02,690 --> 00:22:01,200
saw the image of a goddess until she

589
00:22:04,010 --> 00:22:02,700
looked this particular way or something

590
00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:04,020
like that and it was actually maybe the

591
00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:05,159
vision that you were seeing from your

592
00:22:08,690 --> 00:22:07,500
psychedelic or your ecstatic state was

593
00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:08,700
that you were actually seeing a brain

594
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:09,900
stem but you just didn't know that's

595
00:22:14,810 --> 00:22:11,520
what you were seeing and you Illustrated

596
00:22:16,970 --> 00:22:14,820
and you drew it and I think also to the

597
00:22:19,730 --> 00:22:16,980
point about if the only two it was a

598
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:19,740
hammer and everything looks like a nail

599
00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:21,600
and seeing Jesus and toast and people

600
00:22:24,350 --> 00:22:22,559
just saying oh you're just seeing

601
00:22:26,029 --> 00:22:24,360
whatever you want to see there is the

602
00:22:27,529 --> 00:22:26,039
visual correlations that you can look at

603
00:22:28,909 --> 00:22:27,539
and say like these things look the same

604
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,919
they kind of look the same like that but

605
00:22:32,450 --> 00:22:30,480
then you get into the mythological and

606
00:22:35,810 --> 00:22:32,460
the symbolical thing and when you get

607
00:22:38,090 --> 00:22:35,820
into Artemis then those goddesses

608
00:22:40,250 --> 00:22:38,100
they start having mythology about being

609
00:22:41,810 --> 00:22:40,260
the temples that they are dedicated to

610
00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:41,820
them always have like a well or a

611
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:43,080
fountain inside the temple there's

612
00:22:46,909 --> 00:22:44,640
always a stream or something coming out

613
00:22:49,549 --> 00:22:46,919
or there's always this idea of these

614
00:22:51,529 --> 00:22:49,559
goddesses being masters of beasts and

615
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:51,539
taming that lower Base Animal desire so

616
00:22:54,830 --> 00:22:53,039
whenever you see Artemis with all those

617
00:22:56,210 --> 00:22:54,840
animals coming up her legs and all that

618
00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:56,220
sort of stuff there's a whole other

619
00:22:59,690 --> 00:22:58,020
symbolic meaning to why those animals

620
00:23:02,149 --> 00:22:59,700
are on her legs

621
00:23:03,770 --> 00:23:02,159
and you get an association with lakes

622
00:23:06,110 --> 00:23:03,780
and water and stuff like that which then

623
00:23:07,850 --> 00:23:06,120
ties into you know the cerebral spinal

624
00:23:09,049 --> 00:23:07,860
fluid that descends down from the brain

625
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:09,059
stem so

626
00:23:13,730 --> 00:23:11,280
there's a lot more examples of that but

627
00:23:15,710 --> 00:23:13,740
when you have the visual correlations

628
00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:15,720
you can say look these things look the

629
00:23:19,070 --> 00:23:17,340
same you say sure they look the same but

630
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:19,080
you are seeing Jesus and Toes but then

631
00:23:22,669 --> 00:23:20,880
you can add to it the symbolic

632
00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:22,679
understanding of these characters and

633
00:23:26,510 --> 00:23:24,780
what else is behind the storytelling in

634
00:23:27,610 --> 00:23:26,520
that and that helps tie in these ideas

635
00:23:30,350 --> 00:23:27,620
of a

636
00:23:34,010 --> 00:23:30,360
anatomical physiological

637
00:23:35,330 --> 00:23:34,020
symbolism that is taking place and also

638
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:35,340
you start to realize that the reason

639
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:36,720
that they're showing

640
00:23:39,710 --> 00:23:38,400
the brain stem and dealing with these

641
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,720
things is about that sort of

642
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,760
neurophysiology about the fluids of the

643
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:43,440
body and if you think about

644
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:45,840
the brain the brain lives in fluid it's

645
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,000
it's bathed in fluid and so if you can

646
00:23:54,409 --> 00:23:50,640
purify that fluid that surrounds this

647
00:23:56,930 --> 00:23:54,419
wet Hardware of the brain it's sitting

648
00:23:59,930 --> 00:23:56,940
in fluid if you're able to refine that

649
00:24:01,490 --> 00:23:59,940
fluid you can create a better bath that

650
00:24:03,049 --> 00:24:01,500
the brain sits in and that is allows you

651
00:24:04,669 --> 00:24:03,059
to access these sort of exalted States

652
00:24:07,490 --> 00:24:04,679
Of Consciousness so

653
00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:07,500
you can start making mother uh making

654
00:24:12,049 --> 00:24:09,240
mother pun intended and you can start

655
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:12,059
making other associations to

656
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:15,120
the fluid and the water symbolism and

657
00:24:18,529 --> 00:24:16,320
that sort of thing and these symbols of

658
00:24:20,690 --> 00:24:18,539
goddesses being associated with fluid

659
00:24:23,149 --> 00:24:20,700
and even the multi-breasts of those

660
00:24:25,730 --> 00:24:23,159
statues show you this idea of

661
00:24:27,770 --> 00:24:25,740
you know breastfeed the young and so the

662
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:27,780
fluid of the cerebral spinal fluid

663
00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:30,000
coming out of the brain stem is feeding

664
00:24:34,909 --> 00:24:33,120
the garden of the human body so there's

665
00:24:36,529 --> 00:24:34,919
there's ways that you can not only show

666
00:24:38,029 --> 00:24:36,539
the visual correlation but you can also

667
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:38,039
show the symbolic correlation of these

668
00:24:41,450 --> 00:24:39,840
symbols too so that's sort of what we're

669
00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:41,460
hopefully trying to do I'm sure there's

670
00:24:44,029 --> 00:24:42,780
plenty of people that are Skeptics that

671
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:44,039
will say no matter what we're just

672
00:24:46,730 --> 00:24:45,600
looking at you know we're seeing clouds

673
00:24:48,289 --> 00:24:46,740
and we're seeing whatever we want to see

674
00:24:50,210 --> 00:24:48,299
in them

675
00:24:52,130 --> 00:24:50,220
one of the things that we've spent the

676
00:24:54,350 --> 00:24:52,140
most time addressing from the beginning

677
00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:54,360
of this research project and it

678
00:24:58,570 --> 00:24:56,100
continued to this day but less and less

679
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:58,580
often now and we hear it almost

680
00:25:02,990 --> 00:25:00,960
exclusively from egyptology because the

681
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:03,000
art professors and art historians and a

682
00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:05,039
bunch of a bunch of lots of other fields

683
00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,840
are completely on board with this it's

684
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:08,159
just egyptology that doesn't

685
00:25:12,169 --> 00:25:10,080
particularly want to admit that they've

686
00:25:14,330 --> 00:25:12,179
missed such a giant you know aspect of

687
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,340
ancient Egypt and the ancient world but

688
00:25:17,870 --> 00:25:16,080
when they say you're seeing Jesus in

689
00:25:18,649 --> 00:25:17,880
toast one of the things we've thought

690
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,659
about

691
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:20,880
is like confirmation bias means you look

692
00:25:24,769 --> 00:25:22,799
up into the sky and you see a cloud and

693
00:25:26,930 --> 00:25:24,779
you're like yeah that cloud looks like a

694
00:25:27,769 --> 00:25:26,940
duck kind of but if you looked up in the

695
00:25:30,350 --> 00:25:27,779
sky

696
00:25:32,690 --> 00:25:30,360
and you saw the clouds formed like wow

697
00:25:34,370 --> 00:25:32,700
that looks a lot like my neighbor Brad

698
00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:34,380
and that other cloud looks like he's

699
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:36,419
mowing the lawn and that other cloud

700
00:25:40,130 --> 00:25:37,919
looks like exactly like his wife

701
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:40,140
standing next to him and she's holding

702
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,960
in my passport and it has I can imagine

703
00:25:47,090 --> 00:25:44,640
the circumstances under which you saw

704
00:25:49,610 --> 00:25:47,100
that Quest so

705
00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:49,620
confirmation bias is a legitimate thing

706
00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:51,539
and it's an important part of science I

707
00:25:54,649 --> 00:25:52,440
mean

708
00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:54,659
science doesn't prevent artists you know

709
00:25:58,130 --> 00:25:56,700
artists are capable of engaging in

710
00:25:59,330 --> 00:25:58,140
scientific thought and so of course you

711
00:26:01,070 --> 00:25:59,340
have to consider the fact that you're

712
00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:01,080
just projecting you're seeing what you

713
00:26:03,769 --> 00:26:02,279
want to see but

714
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:03,779
one of the things that I keep coming

715
00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:06,480
back to is how many correlations

716
00:26:10,430 --> 00:26:08,940
do you have between a piece of art and a

717
00:26:12,830 --> 00:26:10,440
piece of biology

718
00:26:14,090 --> 00:26:12,840
before you say well this is Way Beyond

719
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,100
what you'd expect if you were just

720
00:26:19,010 --> 00:26:17,039
seeing Jesus in toast so I can take one

721
00:26:21,850 --> 00:26:19,020
of these statues and by the way if

722
00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:21,860
anybody wants to see these visuals go to

723
00:26:26,269 --> 00:26:23,940
www.magicalegypt.com or go to YouTube

724
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:26,279
and type in there's a talk that Brad and

725
00:26:30,649 --> 00:26:27,600
I just did called Sympathy for the

726
00:26:33,230 --> 00:26:30,659
Baphomet yes type that in and you'll see

727
00:26:34,490 --> 00:26:33,240
the visuals of all of these discoveries

728
00:26:36,010 --> 00:26:34,500
so you can see what we're talking about

729
00:26:38,810 --> 00:26:36,020
but

730
00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:38,820
there are things like

731
00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:41,220
well they're sperm cells like there's

732
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:43,260
these very clear obvious sperm cells in

733
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:46,320
Egyptian hieroglyphs and if you're you

734
00:26:49,850 --> 00:26:47,520
know you're just whatever you got sperm

735
00:26:51,289 --> 00:26:49,860
cells on the brain or something which

736
00:26:52,330 --> 00:26:51,299
apparently some people do

737
00:26:54,289 --> 00:26:52,340
um

738
00:26:56,090 --> 00:26:54,299
I don't know where I'm going with that

739
00:26:57,049 --> 00:26:56,100
but anyway no I mean you can see how

740
00:26:58,970 --> 00:26:57,059
someone would say oh you're just

741
00:27:01,850 --> 00:26:58,980
projecting that but in this particular

742
00:27:04,669 --> 00:27:01,860
relief where you see the sperm cells

743
00:27:06,649 --> 00:27:04,679
there's a god with an erect phallus

744
00:27:09,890 --> 00:27:06,659
coming out of the tip of the erect

745
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:09,900
phallus is the sperm cell and

746
00:27:15,409 --> 00:27:12,480
the legend of this this hieroglyph is

747
00:27:18,289 --> 00:27:15,419
actually called the Waters of life

748
00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:18,299
so you have positional confirmation you

749
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:19,919
have the actual I mean you can look at

750
00:27:24,110 --> 00:27:21,840
it and it's obviously a sperm cell but

751
00:27:25,970 --> 00:27:24,120
then the name of it suggests what it is

752
00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:25,980
and there's layers and layers and layers

753
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:29,159
of context so in Brad's discoveries all

754
00:27:33,649 --> 00:27:31,440
of these things are all related

755
00:27:37,789 --> 00:27:33,659
to divinity

756
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:37,799
and it's not just that this thing

757
00:27:42,289 --> 00:27:39,840
resembles a brain stem like these

758
00:27:44,510 --> 00:27:42,299
certain class of statues they resemble a

759
00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:44,520
brain stem to such a degree that me as a

760
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,960
non-doctor I've never gone to medical

761
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:48,000
school

762
00:27:51,890 --> 00:27:50,580
but I can take one of these statues if I

763
00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:51,900
did go to medical school and I had a

764
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:53,940
medical exam I could go into a class

765
00:27:58,730 --> 00:27:56,880
with this statue and I could Ace a test

766
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:58,740
of all the articulations of the brain

767
00:28:03,470 --> 00:28:00,480
stem like literally every piece and part

768
00:28:07,730 --> 00:28:03,480
of the brain stem is captured in this

769
00:28:10,669 --> 00:28:07,740
statue and it just by using postures and

770
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:10,679
certain stances you see these statues

771
00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:13,200
and they don't exactly look accurate if

772
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,700
it was just a person but they're changed

773
00:28:19,610 --> 00:28:16,799
a little bit here and there in one case

774
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:19,620
Ishtar has really big bulbous shoulders

775
00:28:24,409 --> 00:28:22,320
that aren't correct anatomically but

776
00:28:26,810 --> 00:28:24,419
they help it match perfectly to the

777
00:28:29,450 --> 00:28:26,820
thalamus in the brain stem so if I could

778
00:28:31,549 --> 00:28:29,460
go into a medical exam and I can pass a

779
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:31,559
test using only this little statue

780
00:28:35,810 --> 00:28:33,480
because it so perfectly represents all

781
00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:35,820
the articulations of the brain stem and

782
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:38,520
then further it talks about how this

783
00:28:44,930 --> 00:28:41,760
statue is the goddess of creativity or

784
00:28:48,049 --> 00:28:44,940
in the case of Osiris the iconic statue

785
00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:48,059
of Osiris with his legs joined and his

786
00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:50,220
arms fold in that peculiar way part for

787
00:28:54,289 --> 00:28:52,260
part of the statue exactly corresponds

788
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:54,299
to the same parts of the brain stem that

789
00:28:58,970 --> 00:28:56,880
the Ishtar and anano statues

790
00:29:01,610 --> 00:28:58,980
and then they talk about the function

791
00:29:03,649 --> 00:29:01,620
like the things that the God does turn

792
00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:03,659
out to be in a lot of cases describing

793
00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:05,220
the function of this part of the brain

794
00:29:10,669 --> 00:29:07,620
so people say you know anybody can cut a

795
00:29:12,289 --> 00:29:10,679
head open and draw what they see but

796
00:29:14,330 --> 00:29:12,299
there's an additional level of context

797
00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:14,340
where it's specifically in a lot of

798
00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:15,480
different cases

799
00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:17,640
shows you a brain part and then talks

800
00:29:22,669 --> 00:29:20,460
about in Legend form what that brain

801
00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:22,679
part does so it's easy to just look at

802
00:29:26,570 --> 00:29:25,260
something and recreate it but they seem

803
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:26,580
to know what each of the parts of the

804
00:29:31,789 --> 00:29:29,039
brain had to do with Consciousness and

805
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:31,799
the whole thing decries this much more

806
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:33,600
sophisticated level of

807
00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:35,760
not just biology but understanding of

808
00:29:39,529 --> 00:29:37,679
consciousness

809
00:29:41,870 --> 00:29:39,539
the idea too that you talk about this

810
00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:41,880
association with divinity I mean when

811
00:29:45,529 --> 00:29:43,500
you think about entheogens and

812
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,539
psychedelics I mean that word entheogens

813
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,000
means to talk to God and that term God

814
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,919
is such a heavily loaded term anyway to

815
00:29:52,669 --> 00:29:51,360
begin with there's so much baggage with

816
00:29:54,649 --> 00:29:52,679
that word god

817
00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:54,659
but when you look at like that painting

818
00:29:59,810 --> 00:29:56,820
of Michelangelo's painting of the

819
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,820
creation of Adam God is in the middle of

820
00:30:02,389 --> 00:30:01,200
the brain he's coming out through the

821
00:30:04,730 --> 00:30:02,399
middle of the brain he's reaching out

822
00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:04,740
and he's touching at him and so there's

823
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:06,120
a guy named Bill Donny who has made the

824
00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:07,919
point about that painting that Adam's

825
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,480
already created in that painting his

826
00:30:13,370 --> 00:30:11,520
eyes are open and I remember the old at

827
00:30:16,730 --> 00:30:13,380
T Reach Out And Touch someone you know

828
00:30:19,010 --> 00:30:16,740
yes slogan Michelangelo in his painting

829
00:30:20,810 --> 00:30:19,020
is basically depicting Divinity or God

830
00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:20,820
reaching out on the inside of the brain

831
00:30:24,649 --> 00:30:22,860
and touching man or touching Adam and

832
00:30:26,570 --> 00:30:24,659
you see this again and again this idea

833
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:26,580
of this brain stem being representative

834
00:30:30,889 --> 00:30:29,279
of divinity and again if you shed all

835
00:30:33,649 --> 00:30:30,899
the baggage of that word God and

836
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:33,659
Divinity and you go towards the term of

837
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:35,340
just antheogen think about any time

838
00:30:38,690 --> 00:30:37,440
people have been on psychedelics have

839
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:38,700
felt like they've been in the presence

840
00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:40,020
of God or they've been in the presence

841
00:30:42,830 --> 00:30:41,460
of all knowing or they've been in the

842
00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:42,840
presence of wisdom

843
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:45,960
you really start to understand this idea

844
00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:48,480
that depicting Divinity coming out of

845
00:30:51,769 --> 00:30:50,460
the center of your brain

846
00:30:53,810 --> 00:30:51,779
is

847
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,820
sort of an illustration showing you of

848
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,440
this kind of for lack of a better term

849
00:30:59,510 --> 00:30:57,840
sort of this Cosmic internet that we all

850
00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:59,520
have in our heads where we can kind of

851
00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:02,159
connect to universal truth and I mean

852
00:31:05,389 --> 00:31:03,539
that's in my way when I think of the

853
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:05,399
term God I've I've been able to not have

854
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:06,240
any

855
00:31:09,649 --> 00:31:08,399
baggage associated with the term God or

856
00:31:12,049 --> 00:31:09,659
with the term religion or with the term

857
00:31:13,130 --> 00:31:12,059
Divinity I just think of that term to

858
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:13,140
mean

859
00:31:17,870 --> 00:31:15,840
knowing you know wisdom right and if you

860
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:17,880
can connect in these states of gnosis or

861
00:31:22,669 --> 00:31:20,880
these states of wisdom you can have an

862
00:31:24,409 --> 00:31:22,679
epiphany that allows you to figure out

863
00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:24,419
how to put a plane in the sky or how to

864
00:31:27,789 --> 00:31:26,220
come up with a cure for a disease or how

865
00:31:31,070 --> 00:31:27,799
to figure something out you've actually

866
00:31:33,230 --> 00:31:31,080
retained that knowledge then you in a

867
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:33,240
sense perhaps you spoke to God now you

868
00:31:36,830 --> 00:31:34,799
have you have knowledge and you have

869
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:36,840
that sort of thing so again if you take

870
00:31:39,889 --> 00:31:38,640
it out of the bearded man floating in

871
00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:39,899
the sky with the clouds of the person

872
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,159
who created everything but you think

873
00:31:44,330 --> 00:31:42,960
about that idea of divinity just as this

874
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:44,340
source of Truth

875
00:31:48,830 --> 00:31:45,840
then that's another really interesting

876
00:31:51,649 --> 00:31:48,840
aspect of our ancestors depicting

877
00:31:53,690 --> 00:31:51,659
Divinity relating to our brains and this

878
00:31:55,730 --> 00:31:53,700
idea that our brains have

879
00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:55,740
a way to connect and knowing to connect

880
00:32:00,769 --> 00:31:57,720
to gnosis and you go through all the

881
00:32:02,269 --> 00:32:00,779
esoteric sects of human civilization and

882
00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:02,279
at their core the thing that they're

883
00:32:08,330 --> 00:32:04,980
always seeking is truth and wisdom yes

884
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,340
and I think that our ancestors figured

885
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:10,320
out how to access these states of Truth

886
00:32:14,269 --> 00:32:12,840
or wisdom and what do you do when you

887
00:32:16,490 --> 00:32:14,279
want to personify how are you going to

888
00:32:18,409 --> 00:32:16,500
personify you know every New Year's Eve

889
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:18,419
we personify the changing of the Year by

890
00:32:21,950 --> 00:32:20,159
having an old man with a sickle and an

891
00:32:23,870 --> 00:32:21,960
hourglass and he's the end of the year

892
00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:23,880
and then there's baby New Year who's

893
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:25,980
born and that's represented the new year

894
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:28,559
we represent principles as human beings

895
00:32:32,510 --> 00:32:30,480
we anthropomorphize these things right

896
00:32:35,690 --> 00:32:32,520
so if you're going to anthropomorphize

897
00:32:36,649 --> 00:32:35,700
wisdom or truth or Divinity are these

898
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:36,659
things you would make it this old

899
00:32:40,190 --> 00:32:38,159
bearded man or whatever this whatever

900
00:32:42,590 --> 00:32:40,200
your God or whatever your thing is but

901
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,600
to me that's where this really is the

902
00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:44,640
most fascinating of this subject matter

903
00:32:50,090 --> 00:32:47,460
is it seems our ancestors figured out

904
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:50,100
ways to tap into states of gnosis to tap

905
00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:51,840
into states of Truth

906
00:32:55,730 --> 00:32:53,820
and call that truth God call it whatever

907
00:32:57,049 --> 00:32:55,740
you want call it Sophia call it my heart

908
00:32:59,149 --> 00:32:57,059
call it any of the names you want to

909
00:33:00,830 --> 00:32:59,159
give it there's knowledge there there's

910
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:00,840
actual ways you can tap into things it's

911
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,940
not just some spiritual woo-woo oh I

912
00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:04,559
feel one with everything and I feel like

913
00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:06,120
I've met my Creator or any of this stuff

914
00:33:09,889 --> 00:33:08,039
there's actual

915
00:33:11,389 --> 00:33:09,899
knowledge that you can pull out of these

916
00:33:12,889 --> 00:33:11,399
things and that's why I think when we

917
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:12,899
look at the Egyptians we go how did they

918
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,279
know how to do these things or how did

919
00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:16,320
this civilization know how to do this

920
00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:17,880
I think they figured out how to tap into

921
00:33:22,970 --> 00:33:19,980
states of knowing and they they learned

922
00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:22,980
you know and so that idea of divinity to

923
00:33:26,029 --> 00:33:24,179
me is more

924
00:33:27,049 --> 00:33:26,039
you know this idea of gnosis or

925
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:27,059
knowledge and that's the really

926
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:28,320
compelling part is when you look at

927
00:33:32,090 --> 00:33:30,360
these statues they're all showing

928
00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:32,100
and these paintings and that stuff is

929
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,480
they're showing you

930
00:33:36,590 --> 00:33:35,279
that you can tap into these states of

931
00:33:38,090 --> 00:33:36,600
knowing and that's what happens when you

932
00:33:40,009 --> 00:33:38,100
go into the temple into the holy of

933
00:33:42,049 --> 00:33:40,019
holies is that you know it changes your

934
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,059
way of knowing and you see the world in

935
00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:44,159
different ways and my friend the first

936
00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:46,380
time I ever took LSD gave the best

937
00:33:49,850 --> 00:33:48,600
expression the best description of it I

938
00:33:51,529 --> 00:33:49,860
could possibly ask for it's like what's

939
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:51,539
it like and he just smiled at me and he

940
00:33:54,409 --> 00:33:52,799
said you know you'll never look at the

941
00:33:56,930 --> 00:33:54,419
world the same way

942
00:33:59,149 --> 00:33:56,940
and that's what happens in the temple

943
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,159
mythology there's a woman named Margaret

944
00:34:03,049 --> 00:34:00,960
Barker who studied Oxford and has this

945
00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:03,059
whole study of Temple mysticism that

946
00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:04,500
she's created and she talks about what

947
00:34:07,310 --> 00:34:05,880
happens when the priest goes into the

948
00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:07,320
holy of holies

949
00:34:12,589 --> 00:34:11,159
a temple where the third ventricle of

950
00:34:14,750 --> 00:34:12,599
the brain is but she says when the

951
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,760
priest goes into the holy of holies it

952
00:34:17,869 --> 00:34:16,320
changes his way of knowing he's shown

953
00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:17,879
the mysteries of the world he's shown

954
00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:19,260
the measurements of the heavens and

955
00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:22,080
these things so you have through ART and

956
00:34:25,550 --> 00:34:23,399
through symbol

957
00:34:26,930 --> 00:34:25,560
a way to describe how to tap into these

958
00:34:28,490 --> 00:34:26,940
states of knowing and that it involves

959
00:34:30,290 --> 00:34:28,500
the brain and follows the human brain

960
00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:30,300
and the physiology of the body so that

961
00:34:35,570 --> 00:34:31,800
to me is where it becomes the most

962
00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:35,580
useful to modern society yes yes so well

963
00:34:41,629 --> 00:34:38,700
said I do love that aspect of like where

964
00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:41,639
do ideas come from well they seem to

965
00:34:47,930 --> 00:34:44,460
come from contact we can make with other

966
00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:47,940
beings in another realm and westerners

967
00:34:52,909 --> 00:34:51,000
have this idea that oh well if they

968
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:52,919
learned about the brain they must have

969
00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:54,720
cut a bunch of brains open and then

970
00:34:58,730 --> 00:34:56,040
tried to piece it together because

971
00:35:02,230 --> 00:34:58,740
that's how westerners think but as John

972
00:35:05,450 --> 00:35:02,240
Anthony West says in that first season

973
00:35:07,490 --> 00:35:05,460
what he has come to realize from this

974
00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:07,500
study is there are different ways to

975
00:35:12,109 --> 00:35:09,900
gain knowledge and I agree with you

976
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:12,119
about God to me God is like the central

977
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:14,160
node in the network just the biggest

978
00:35:19,609 --> 00:35:16,140
most Central node in the network or the

979
00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:19,619
field and we have other examples too of

980
00:35:25,970 --> 00:35:23,160
not only didactic art like you mentioned

981
00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:25,980
the Michelangelo painting Da Vinci did

982
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:27,660
it too so we know there are other

983
00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:30,000
cultures that have hidden deep symbolism

984
00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:32,520
of Consciousness in the brain in artwork

985
00:35:36,650 --> 00:35:34,740
so that's not up for debate and then we

986
00:35:38,810 --> 00:35:36,660
also know that there are other cultures

987
00:35:40,910 --> 00:35:38,820
like The dogon Who

988
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:40,920
uh you know still are living in a pretty

989
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:44,400
primitive Natural Way embedded in their

990
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,560
environment and they have knowledge that

991
00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:48,240
they shouldn't be able to have about

992
00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:51,960
star systems and a deep cosmology about

993
00:35:58,430 --> 00:35:55,380
the life death process and where souls

994
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,440
go and again we say oh that's cute they

995
00:36:02,750 --> 00:36:00,240
have a weird Superstition an

996
00:36:04,849 --> 00:36:02,760
anthropology God such a missed

997
00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:04,859
opportunity we have decades and Decades

998
00:36:09,890 --> 00:36:07,260
of anthropology where we have just

999
00:36:13,130 --> 00:36:09,900
dismissed what these people say and

1000
00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:13,140
considered it Superstition and it's just

1001
00:36:17,089 --> 00:36:15,300
awful really because you gotta throw it

1002
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:17,099
all out and go revisit all these

1003
00:36:21,890 --> 00:36:18,720
cultures and actually take them

1004
00:36:24,050 --> 00:36:21,900
seriously and in all these cases I think

1005
00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:24,060
they're all tapping into the field it's

1006
00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:26,040
like we're the only culture we think

1007
00:36:31,069 --> 00:36:28,920
that we're so Advanced and we're so cut

1008
00:36:32,450 --> 00:36:31,079
off from the real fields of knowledge

1009
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:32,460
we're stumbling around in the dark

1010
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:35,040
trying to piece together how this stuff

1011
00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:36,960
works when we've lost the real

1012
00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:38,940
connection which seems to kind of come

1013
00:36:42,829 --> 00:36:40,500
from being embedded in your environment

1014
00:36:45,950 --> 00:36:42,839
and then also exploring Consciousness

1015
00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:45,960
and these cultures that are just hanging

1016
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:49,260
out in Huts in the dirt they actually

1017
00:36:53,810 --> 00:36:51,720
have a really deep cosmology and the

1018
00:36:56,270 --> 00:36:53,820
only way to explain it without like

1019
00:36:57,290 --> 00:36:56,280
laboratory science is that they have a

1020
00:37:02,030 --> 00:36:57,300
direct

1021
00:37:05,870 --> 00:37:02,040
their Consciousness to this field this

1022
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:05,880
akashic record and maybe the gods and

1023
00:37:10,569 --> 00:37:09,119
Spirits who actually tell them about

1024
00:37:12,829 --> 00:37:10,579
this stuff yeah they get

1025
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,839
anthropomorphized in the art and then

1026
00:37:16,910 --> 00:37:15,119
there's a mythology crafted around the

1027
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:16,920
beans that kind of talk about their

1028
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,500
personality and the areas of knowledge

1029
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:21,839
they have and that's where we get

1030
00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:24,240
Egyptian mythology it isn't just some

1031
00:37:28,130 --> 00:37:26,520
made up thing that they thought was

1032
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:28,140
interesting because they were bored it's

1033
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:31,920
like a deep real thing but westerners

1034
00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:33,720
just struggle with it because we don't

1035
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:36,180
connect to the field as often as really

1036
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:37,440
we should

1037
00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:40,079
there's a saying that it's been around

1038
00:37:44,089 --> 00:37:42,780
forever but the thing is there's three

1039
00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:44,099
things You Can't Hide You Can't Hide the

1040
00:37:47,150 --> 00:37:45,480
sun you can't hide the moon and you

1041
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:47,160
can't hide the truth

1042
00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:49,680
but what you can do to hide the center

1043
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,300
to hide the Moon is to hang a bunch of

1044
00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:53,040
other moons up or just like they used to

1045
00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:54,900
do in World War II throw Flack up into

1046
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:55,740
the air

1047
00:37:59,390 --> 00:37:58,079
there are all of these expressions and

1048
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,400
no matter what anybody says about

1049
00:38:02,510 --> 00:38:00,960
ancient Egypt the Expressions don't

1050
00:38:04,370 --> 00:38:02,520
change it's just that there's people

1051
00:38:06,410 --> 00:38:04,380
that presume to stand between you and

1052
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,420
the message of ancient Egypt that

1053
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:08,640
changed it just enough and I think a lot

1054
00:38:11,210 --> 00:38:09,660
of this happened in organized

1055
00:38:12,829 --> 00:38:11,220
Christianity when the battle for

1056
00:38:14,810 --> 00:38:12,839
Christianity versus paganism happened

1057
00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:14,820
that there's things you can't hide but

1058
00:38:18,349 --> 00:38:16,680
you can tell stories over the top of

1059
00:38:20,030 --> 00:38:18,359
them that fundamentally change the

1060
00:38:21,890 --> 00:38:20,040
meanings they change the importance of

1061
00:38:23,870 --> 00:38:21,900
these things just enough so that they're

1062
00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:23,880
not of any use to you anymore like Greg

1063
00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:25,980
had mentioned a thing that I'm eternally

1064
00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:28,140
fascinated with that at some point the

1065
00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:31,140
mushroom cults evolved over thousands of

1066
00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:33,180
years into Christianity where you go and

1067
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,740
you eat this cracker and they

1068
00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:36,720
specifically tell you the cracker is the

1069
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:38,760
Flesh of the Gods and you know anybody

1070
00:38:43,370 --> 00:38:41,280
if you read Terence McKenna the mushroom

1071
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,380
is called the Flesh of the Gods you go

1072
00:38:48,170 --> 00:38:45,599
nowadays and you sit in this room and

1073
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:48,180
you eat a cracker and you don't really I

1074
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:49,680
mean I you know I was forced to go to

1075
00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:51,599
church my whole young life and you go

1076
00:38:55,490 --> 00:38:53,220
and you'd never have an actual spiritual

1077
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,500
experience in church but you go and you

1078
00:38:59,089 --> 00:38:57,599
do all of these empty things that used

1079
00:39:00,890 --> 00:38:59,099
to mean something they used to be a very

1080
00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:00,900
powerful technology but they were

1081
00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:02,820
changed just enough to remove the power

1082
00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:04,440
out of the technology

1083
00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:05,880
and

1084
00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:08,700
if you look without that modern baggage

1085
00:39:12,290 --> 00:39:10,260
without the Flack that they've thrown up

1086
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,300
to obscure this truth that's hard to

1087
00:39:16,430 --> 00:39:14,400
hide what it appears is that these

1088
00:39:19,609 --> 00:39:16,440
things are not about something outside

1089
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:19,619
of you that these gods and these holy

1090
00:39:24,589 --> 00:39:22,800
attributes these Godlike abilities

1091
00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:24,599
it's not for you to appreciate what a

1092
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,900
great goddess inanna was or Ishtar what

1093
00:39:31,370 --> 00:39:29,520
it is is you it's it's like Homer

1094
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:31,380
Simpson it's every man that all of these

1095
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:34,560
things Osiris the god Ishtar and Nana

1096
00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:37,320
these things are all representative it's

1097
00:39:40,849 --> 00:39:39,300
like you showing you a mirror to

1098
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,859
yourself if you lived in a world with no

1099
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:42,960
mirrors and suddenly somebody showed

1100
00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:44,400
held a mirror up to you and showed you

1101
00:39:48,109 --> 00:39:46,140
here's what you are the parts of you

1102
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,119
yourself that you can't see are the most

1103
00:39:53,150 --> 00:39:50,160
important parts of yourself

1104
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:53,160
these are Dynamic models or schematics

1105
00:39:59,329 --> 00:39:57,060
of you so one of the things that I've

1106
00:40:00,650 --> 00:39:59,339
tried to do in magical Egypt that I

1107
00:40:02,210 --> 00:40:00,660
think separates us from everywhere else

1108
00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:02,220
is we're not about aliens we're not

1109
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:04,680
about how many pharaohs can dance on the

1110
00:40:07,609 --> 00:40:05,640
head of a pin we're not about

1111
00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:07,619
chronologies or pharaohs and dynasties

1112
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:09,900
we really have one mandate in magical

1113
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:12,480
Egypt which is the most Cutthroat

1114
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,119
criteria for any bit of entertainment

1115
00:40:19,130 --> 00:40:17,040
what's in it for me

1116
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,140
what we've tried to do is take the

1117
00:40:22,849 --> 00:40:21,359
operative stuff from Egypt you can you

1118
00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:22,859
know you can watch baseball and collect

1119
00:40:28,670 --> 00:40:25,500
facts and figures all day long you can

1120
00:40:30,589 --> 00:40:28,680
study something as a objective you know

1121
00:40:32,690 --> 00:40:30,599
third-party thing and it's interesting

1122
00:40:34,670 --> 00:40:32,700
enough like you know watching the ballet

1123
00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:34,680
or something but as John West used to

1124
00:40:38,450 --> 00:40:36,780
say you don't really understand baseball

1125
00:40:40,670 --> 00:40:38,460
until you've played baseball

1126
00:40:43,490 --> 00:40:40,680
what we've tried to do is take

1127
00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:43,500
the harvestable technology from Egypt

1128
00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:46,200
and present it to people

1129
00:40:52,730 --> 00:40:48,660
in a way that it's of immediate use it's

1130
00:40:54,050 --> 00:40:52,740
a technology for you to understand

1131
00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:54,060
and start exploring your own

1132
00:40:57,470 --> 00:40:55,619
Consciousness this weird room you have

1133
00:40:59,450 --> 00:40:57,480
inside of your head and we live in this

1134
00:41:01,250 --> 00:40:59,460
Society where everything about Society

1135
00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:01,260
is constantly drawing you out of your

1136
00:41:05,690 --> 00:41:03,720
head so the Ancients didn't have TVs

1137
00:41:07,310 --> 00:41:05,700
they didn't have Netflix

1138
00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:07,320
you know when you go to lunch and you

1139
00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:08,760
eat in a restaurant there's music

1140
00:41:12,109 --> 00:41:10,680
playing and you just all of our society

1141
00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:12,119
is set up to keep you from really

1142
00:41:15,230 --> 00:41:14,520
exploring these weird mysteries in your

1143
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:15,240
head

1144
00:41:21,050 --> 00:41:18,000
and all of these expressions of ancient

1145
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:21,060
Egypt that were this amazing Unity of

1146
00:41:24,650 --> 00:41:22,800
Art and Science like people don't pay

1147
00:41:26,329 --> 00:41:24,660
enough attention to that that Art and

1148
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,339
Science used to be married so that the

1149
00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:28,560
point of art when art was important

1150
00:41:32,930 --> 00:41:30,900
was that it conveyed didactic you said

1151
00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:32,940
that also word didactic art in the

1152
00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:34,680
ancient world was didactic as was

1153
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:37,980
architecture and it was made to convey a

1154
00:41:41,630 --> 00:41:39,599
message this is before gutenberg's

1155
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:41,640
printing press and before books and so

1156
00:41:46,190 --> 00:41:43,380
he would walk through a book and it was

1157
00:41:49,609 --> 00:41:46,200
a it was a temple and it's for you it's

1158
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,619
a mirror to show you to yourself and to

1159
00:41:53,329 --> 00:41:51,119
not just describe to you how you are in

1160
00:41:54,829 --> 00:41:53,339
your default Factory issue setting but

1161
00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:54,839
to say here's this thing you didn't know

1162
00:41:59,450 --> 00:41:57,000
about yourself that you can do this

1163
00:42:01,609 --> 00:41:59,460
thing that you can become and all of

1164
00:42:02,810 --> 00:42:01,619
these amazing properties of

1165
00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:02,820
Consciousness that are on the further

1166
00:42:06,970 --> 00:42:04,920
frontiers of Consciousness and we know

1167
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:06,980
all these things psychic ability and

1168
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:09,119
precognitive ability and just millions

1169
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,400
of things that we're all pretty familiar

1170
00:42:15,490 --> 00:42:13,440
with but most people in the Western

1171
00:42:18,349 --> 00:42:15,500
World don't realize these are absolute

1172
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:18,359
properties and just default abilities of

1173
00:42:23,810 --> 00:42:21,119
Consciousness you just need someone to

1174
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:23,820
show you how to get there and it seems

1175
00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:24,960
to be what the expression of ancient

1176
00:42:28,490 --> 00:42:26,940
Egypt was was here's some things that

1177
00:42:30,770 --> 00:42:28,500
you need to do to understand yourself

1178
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:30,780
and also to get the most out of yourself

1179
00:42:35,089 --> 00:42:33,119
like inheriting a car without an owner's

1180
00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:35,099
manual you never realize that your car

1181
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:36,780
could levitate or travel back and forth

1182
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:38,640
in time because you've never read the

1183
00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:40,079
owner's manual you just got in like a

1184
00:42:44,810 --> 00:42:42,060
monkey and started hitting switches and

1185
00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:44,820
flipping knobs and stuff but when you

1186
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,960
really start to understand the message

1187
00:42:51,310 --> 00:42:48,240
of ancient Egypt it really is talking

1188
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,320
about how you have this whole extra

1189
00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:53,280
registered your Consciousness like an

1190
00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:55,320
architecture there's you inherit a house

1191
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:56,940
and you didn't realize that there's a

1192
00:42:59,809 --> 00:42:58,560
second and third floor that are you know

1193
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:59,819
the doors hidden somewhere in the

1194
00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:00,960
basement

1195
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,300
and it's for you I mean the whole point

1196
00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:05,760
is it's about you it shows you to

1197
00:43:11,210 --> 00:43:08,280
yourself and it shows you this promise

1198
00:43:13,010 --> 00:43:11,220
that nobody's told you about our tagline

1199
00:43:15,950 --> 00:43:13,020
for the show is there's a door in your

1200
00:43:18,109 --> 00:43:15,960
head that no one told you about right I

1201
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,119
would say to Greg to your point about

1202
00:43:22,490 --> 00:43:20,480
you know when people have

1203
00:43:24,890 --> 00:43:22,500
psychedelic experiences particularly

1204
00:43:27,230 --> 00:43:24,900
with DMT and they talk about entities or

1205
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:27,240
any of these things or you know I

1206
00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:28,319
personally always feel like I'm not

1207
00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:29,700
getting good stuff because anytime I've

1208
00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:31,380
tripped I've never seen an entity I've

1209
00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:33,660
never spoken to any anything every time

1210
00:43:38,990 --> 00:43:35,700
I've had a psychedelic experience it's

1211
00:43:40,849 --> 00:43:39,000
always been a dialogue in my head with

1212
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:40,859
what seems to be the thought and the

1213
00:43:44,930 --> 00:43:43,380
same voice in my head that I think with

1214
00:43:48,589 --> 00:43:44,940
you know it seems to be an internal

1215
00:43:49,790 --> 00:43:48,599
dialogue with sort of myself in a sense

1216
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:49,800
maybe somebody could say that your

1217
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:51,119
higher self or whatever but like I said

1218
00:43:54,410 --> 00:43:53,040
I always feel like I'm getting jipped

1219
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:54,420
because I'm not seeing entities I'm not

1220
00:43:57,650 --> 00:43:56,160
seeing Clockwork elves I'm not seeing

1221
00:44:00,770 --> 00:43:57,660
and but it made me think about that

1222
00:44:02,930 --> 00:44:00,780
movie contact where you know when Jody

1223
00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:02,940
Foster travels this Interstellar trip

1224
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:04,680
and she sees an alien and the alien's

1225
00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:06,839
starting to form out of this Aura and

1226
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,280
you as the move you're like oh cool

1227
00:44:11,930 --> 00:44:09,839
what's the alien going to look like and

1228
00:44:13,910 --> 00:44:11,940
it's sort of this bummer because it's

1229
00:44:16,250 --> 00:44:13,920
her dad you know it's not this cool

1230
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,260
awesome sci-fi alien it's just her dad

1231
00:44:20,329 --> 00:44:18,240
and you realize like

1232
00:44:22,010 --> 00:44:20,339
her dad would be the thing that she

1233
00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:22,020
would respond to the most and listen to

1234
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,640
the most so I always think of whenever

1235
00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:25,920
people have psychedelic experiences

1236
00:44:29,569 --> 00:44:27,780
whatever is speaking to you in that

1237
00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:29,579
moment or whatever entity or whatever it

1238
00:44:35,089 --> 00:44:33,060
is is some part of your Consciousness is

1239
00:44:37,309 --> 00:44:35,099
like you'll listen to this if I take on

1240
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:37,319
this form or if I take on this sort of

1241
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:38,940
appearance and if you think about it the

1242
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,220
same way as a dream you know we do this

1243
00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:43,680
every night you know if you go lay in a

1244
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:45,300
dark room and you your Consciousness

1245
00:44:49,069 --> 00:44:47,760
traverses this whole other place and you

1246
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:49,079
see people in your dream you see

1247
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:50,880
entities you see dead relatives you see

1248
00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:52,740
you know and they maybe give you a piece

1249
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:54,300
of information maybe they say something

1250
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,160
to you go I had this dream and I saw my

1251
00:44:59,870 --> 00:44:57,839
grandmother or whatever and she told me

1252
00:45:01,370 --> 00:44:59,880
something and it made you realize like I

1253
00:45:02,329 --> 00:45:01,380
gotta go write that book or I gotta go

1254
00:45:04,430 --> 00:45:02,339
do something and it's actually

1255
00:45:06,050 --> 00:45:04,440
beneficial to you you know we don't

1256
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:06,060
think of that as that crazy when we

1257
00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:07,980
think about the idea of having a dream

1258
00:45:12,290 --> 00:45:10,440
and getting some sort of information and

1259
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:12,300
when you go into

1260
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:15,359
looking at dream incubation that's the

1261
00:45:19,010 --> 00:45:17,280
thing that the Greeks were doing and

1262
00:45:20,690 --> 00:45:19,020
that's an academic field of study is

1263
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,700
dream incubation is that you would go to

1264
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:23,280
a sleep dormitory and you would make a

1265
00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:25,440
sacrifice or pay the priest to somehow

1266
00:45:28,910 --> 00:45:27,060
and you're supposed to sleep in the

1267
00:45:30,650 --> 00:45:28,920
dormitory and have a dream and hopefully

1268
00:45:32,510 --> 00:45:30,660
asclepius the god of healing would come

1269
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:32,520
and visit you and tell you what's wrong

1270
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:33,599
with you

1271
00:45:36,770 --> 00:45:35,280
but if he didn't you'd go in the next

1272
00:45:38,089 --> 00:45:36,780
morning you go talk to the priests of

1273
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,099
the temple and they would interpret your

1274
00:45:41,390 --> 00:45:40,079
dream for you and you'd hopefully have

1275
00:45:43,130 --> 00:45:41,400
some sort of cure for some sort of

1276
00:45:45,230 --> 00:45:43,140
ailment or something like that what

1277
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:45,240
isn't as commonly accepted in this field

1278
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:47,520
of incubation is the idea of divinatory

1279
00:45:50,210 --> 00:45:49,200
incubation which is sort of what what

1280
00:45:51,530 --> 00:45:50,220
we're talking about one of the things

1281
00:45:54,109 --> 00:45:51,540
that I'm super interested in like you

1282
00:45:55,309 --> 00:45:54,119
said Greg i'm fascinated where do ideas

1283
00:45:56,690 --> 00:45:55,319
come from

1284
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:56,700
and

1285
00:46:00,410 --> 00:45:58,800
this idea of divinatory incubation like

1286
00:46:01,670 --> 00:46:00,420
I said isn't as accepted in Russian

1287
00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:01,680
Academia but it's basically the same

1288
00:46:05,390 --> 00:46:03,480
thing as dream incubation you know and

1289
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:05,400
you have in like the secret rights of

1290
00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:06,960
the said Festival in Egypt Jeremy Naylor

1291
00:46:11,150 --> 00:46:08,640
writes about this is that the Pharaoh

1292
00:46:12,890 --> 00:46:11,160
goes into a dark room he sits in a dark

1293
00:46:14,750 --> 00:46:12,900
room he has he probably takes some sort

1294
00:46:16,490 --> 00:46:14,760
of food some sort of sacred food he

1295
00:46:18,410 --> 00:46:16,500
changes his clothes he goes through some

1296
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:18,420
sort of purification ritual and he has a

1297
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:20,520
vision and he's supposed to be seen by

1298
00:46:24,829 --> 00:46:22,079
these sort of the Ogden Water with like

1299
00:46:26,030 --> 00:46:24,839
the 12 archetypal gods of Egypt and he's

1300
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:26,040
supposed to have a vision and then when

1301
00:46:29,690 --> 00:46:27,660
he comes out of that state he's reborn

1302
00:46:31,550 --> 00:46:29,700
and he's a new person

1303
00:46:33,050 --> 00:46:31,560
we do this every night we go through

1304
00:46:35,390 --> 00:46:33,060
this ritual every night you probably

1305
00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:35,400
purify yourself maybe you wash your face

1306
00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:37,500
maybe you take a bath you put on

1307
00:46:41,870 --> 00:46:39,300
different clothes you put on like Linens

1308
00:46:43,970 --> 00:46:41,880
or pajamas and you get into a bed in a

1309
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:43,980
dark room in a dark box and you lay

1310
00:46:48,290 --> 00:46:46,319
there perfectly still and your

1311
00:46:50,329 --> 00:46:48,300
Consciousness you have a vision you have

1312
00:46:51,710 --> 00:46:50,339
a crazy David Lynch movie going on your

1313
00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:51,720
head that you're somehow getting some

1314
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,160
sort of information or maybe you're just

1315
00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:55,440
rehashing the events of the day or maybe

1316
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,460
you're having an epiphany and

1317
00:47:00,290 --> 00:46:58,319
something's being told to you

1318
00:47:02,270 --> 00:47:00,300
and we do this it's super common and

1319
00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:02,280
then if you think about if there were

1320
00:47:05,210 --> 00:47:03,660
priests that were out there doing this

1321
00:47:06,770 --> 00:47:05,220
but they were doing it for the sake of

1322
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:06,780
exploring those States Of Consciousness

1323
00:47:09,170 --> 00:47:07,920
and they're going through they're

1324
00:47:11,569 --> 00:47:09,180
washing themselves they're going through

1325
00:47:13,069 --> 00:47:11,579
internally and externally they're eating

1326
00:47:14,569 --> 00:47:13,079
some sort of Sacrament or some sort of

1327
00:47:15,890 --> 00:47:14,579
food and then they go on a stone dark

1328
00:47:18,349 --> 00:47:15,900
stone room

1329
00:47:19,609 --> 00:47:18,359
and they lay there for two days for

1330
00:47:20,990 --> 00:47:19,619
three days or something like that and

1331
00:47:23,450 --> 00:47:21,000
they try and not fall asleep and they

1332
00:47:25,010 --> 00:47:23,460
try and have that sensory deprivation of

1333
00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:25,020
just being alone with your Consciousness

1334
00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:27,180
when you go into the king's chamber and

1335
00:47:30,290 --> 00:47:28,440
the pyramid

1336
00:47:32,690 --> 00:47:30,300
it's the darkest Darkness you've ever

1337
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,700
seen like not only is your face you're

1338
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:34,079
that you can't see your hand in front of

1339
00:47:37,550 --> 00:47:35,280
your face it's right in front of your

1340
00:47:39,890 --> 00:47:37,560
nose you can't see your hand it's the

1341
00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:39,900
darkest Darkness I've ever experienced

1342
00:47:42,770 --> 00:47:41,400
so all you're left with is your

1343
00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:42,780
Consciousness all you're left with is

1344
00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:44,700
your thoughts and so it's not that hard

1345
00:47:48,290 --> 00:47:45,960
to think

1346
00:47:49,849 --> 00:47:48,300
that our ancestors were curious about

1347
00:47:53,089 --> 00:47:49,859
this stuff and figured out that if you

1348
00:47:55,490 --> 00:47:53,099
lay still in a dark stone room that's

1349
00:47:57,290 --> 00:47:55,500
inside a mountain basically you have

1350
00:47:58,730 --> 00:47:57,300
removed the whole external world and

1351
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,740
you're just going into your thoughts

1352
00:48:02,089 --> 00:48:00,720
you're gonna have some epiphanies you're

1353
00:48:04,010 --> 00:48:02,099
gonna have some you've isolated

1354
00:48:06,170 --> 00:48:04,020
Consciousness you've removed every other

1355
00:48:08,809 --> 00:48:06,180
sensory experience and now you're just

1356
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,819
there with your thoughts and they tapped

1357
00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:10,319
into how to get to these states of

1358
00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:12,119
knowing and it's something that we do

1359
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:13,859
every night that we kind of don't really

1360
00:48:19,609 --> 00:48:17,280
think about yeah yeah wow I really love

1361
00:48:22,609 --> 00:48:19,619
that nighttime ritual analogy that's

1362
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:22,619
good that's good and it's also

1363
00:48:29,150 --> 00:48:25,440
interesting because there are examples

1364
00:48:31,069 --> 00:48:29,160
in the past where at least stories you

1365
00:48:32,809 --> 00:48:31,079
know who knows what to make of some of

1366
00:48:34,970 --> 00:48:32,819
these stories that involve the astral

1367
00:48:37,550 --> 00:48:34,980
realm but it seems like in some

1368
00:48:40,010 --> 00:48:37,560
situations you can contact something on

1369
00:48:43,370 --> 00:48:40,020
the other side and it's like whoa holy

1370
00:48:45,290 --> 00:48:43,380
hey this is crazy and then the

1371
00:48:47,329 --> 00:48:45,300
being on the other side says oh if you

1372
00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:47,339
want to have more more sustained contact

1373
00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:50,940
do this this this and this and then

1374
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,180
cultures can form around certain rituals

1375
00:48:58,569 --> 00:48:56,400
and like drum circles getting into

1376
00:49:00,170 --> 00:48:58,579
certain states of exhausted

1377
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:00,180
Consciousness you know you really

1378
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:02,400
exhaust the body and then they break

1379
00:49:06,770 --> 00:49:05,040
through or Spirit quests like sometimes

1380
00:49:09,470 --> 00:49:06,780
these beings whether they're part of the

1381
00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:09,480
self or separate that is obviously Up

1382
00:49:14,270 --> 00:49:11,940
For Debate even in Crowley's whole

1383
00:49:17,089 --> 00:49:14,280
system of Magic the holy Guardian Angel

1384
00:49:19,550 --> 00:49:17,099
people who have been involved in this

1385
00:49:21,170 --> 00:49:19,560
for decades I asked them and they still

1386
00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:21,180
aren't sure if it's something different

1387
00:49:26,329 --> 00:49:23,339
or a part of themselves we'll never know

1388
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:26,339
I think it's you know fractals of the

1389
00:49:30,829 --> 00:49:29,280
one big node out there and and if we're

1390
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:30,839
all that then it's really hard to

1391
00:49:35,390 --> 00:49:33,119
separate anything or make a real

1392
00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:35,400
distinction in that way but chance I

1393
00:49:38,930 --> 00:49:37,260
wanted to bring you back in here and ask

1394
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,940
you about this before we ran out of time

1395
00:49:41,930 --> 00:49:40,319
because I've heard you talk about it and

1396
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:41,940
it's super interesting I really love

1397
00:49:48,650 --> 00:49:45,920
when we can find the source of certain

1398
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:48,660
myths and how they might relate to

1399
00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:51,839
Consciousness or these mechanisms and

1400
00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:53,700
I've heard you make this point that even

1401
00:49:59,210 --> 00:49:56,220
the Arabian myth of the genie in the

1402
00:50:01,849 --> 00:49:59,220
lamp is symbolic of a Kundalini

1403
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:01,859
experience the genie emerges in a

1404
00:50:07,130 --> 00:50:04,440
snake-like fashion and if it's not done

1405
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,140
in a controlled way it can be chaotic

1406
00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:08,880
talk to us about that a little bit

1407
00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:11,160
because it is weird everywhere you look

1408
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:13,260
in the old world you we have these

1409
00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:15,599
stories in these myths and these motifs

1410
00:50:18,890 --> 00:50:17,640
and they all seem to point to the same

1411
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:18,900
thing and we just don't have that

1412
00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:21,359
context give us that context

1413
00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:24,900
there's a really loaded symbol of the

1414
00:50:28,130 --> 00:50:26,760
death of Osiris and Osiris got chopped

1415
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:28,140
into all these pieces and then he was

1416
00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:29,760
scattered all over the place and Isis

1417
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,040
had to take all the pieces of Osiris and

1418
00:50:36,170 --> 00:50:34,319
reassemble them we had a weirdly

1419
00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:36,180
parallel experience when we were doing

1420
00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:38,220
research for this project because once

1421
00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:39,839
you start looking at Kundalini symbolism

1422
00:50:43,849 --> 00:50:41,700
and third eye symbolism and in

1423
00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:43,859
particular snake symbolism it's

1424
00:50:48,410 --> 00:50:46,079
everywhere and the interesting thing

1425
00:50:50,930 --> 00:50:48,420
about it is that each culture will give

1426
00:50:52,430 --> 00:50:50,940
you maybe three out of the five pieces

1427
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,440
that you need and they'll all withhold

1428
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,960
certain key pieces but if you take five

1429
00:50:59,329 --> 00:50:56,640
or six cultures and lay them all out in

1430
00:51:01,250 --> 00:50:59,339
a grid they don't always obscure the

1431
00:51:03,290 --> 00:51:01,260
same thing so you get like one two and

1432
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,300
three from ancient Egypt but then in

1433
00:51:07,609 --> 00:51:06,000
kabbalism you get three and five or you

1434
00:51:09,049 --> 00:51:07,619
you know what I mean and so when you

1435
00:51:10,609 --> 00:51:09,059
look at all these cultures that use

1436
00:51:12,109 --> 00:51:10,619
snake symbolism and they use third eye

1437
00:51:14,329 --> 00:51:12,119
symbolism and they're obviously talking

1438
00:51:16,250 --> 00:51:14,339
about magic and things different

1439
00:51:18,109 --> 00:51:16,260
cultures withheld different parts so

1440
00:51:20,329 --> 00:51:18,119
when you start like I'm right now I'm in

1441
00:51:23,690 --> 00:51:20,339
Asia I'm in Thailand right now and I'm

1442
00:51:26,210 --> 00:51:23,700
right close to Angkor Wat which is the

1443
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:26,220
most Kundalini Angkor Wat Temple is this

1444
00:51:31,069 --> 00:51:29,280
giant 3D walkthrough book that talks to

1445
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:31,079
you about Kundalini and the secrets of

1446
00:51:38,270 --> 00:51:35,040
Kundalini so all of the I mean amazing

1447
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:38,280
Norse cultures ancient Germanic cultures

1448
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,280
Brad in the show talks a lot about how

1449
00:51:45,170 --> 00:51:43,440
many different cultures and it's been a

1450
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:45,180
subject of Fascination for me as well

1451
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,280
part of the reason as an artist that you

1452
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,960
see these icons that keep showing up and

1453
00:51:52,370 --> 00:51:50,640
the art direction is different from

1454
00:51:53,930 --> 00:51:52,380
culture to culture but the meaning is

1455
00:51:56,089 --> 00:51:53,940
the same and the Clusters are the same

1456
00:51:59,089 --> 00:51:56,099
you always get a snake you get triangles

1457
00:52:00,890 --> 00:51:59,099
or threefold structures symbolizing the

1458
00:52:02,990 --> 00:52:00,900
pineal gland pituitary and the thalamus

1459
00:52:05,450 --> 00:52:03,000
you see the snake Rising almost always

1460
00:52:07,250 --> 00:52:05,460
you see two snakes intertwining with one

1461
00:52:09,290 --> 00:52:07,260
another like the idea and pingal right

1462
00:52:10,430 --> 00:52:09,300
at the top of the head to that yeah and

1463
00:52:11,809 --> 00:52:10,440
the light at the top of the head exactly

1464
00:52:13,010 --> 00:52:11,819
yeah The Shining circle at the top of

1465
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:13,020
the pyramid with the light coming out

1466
00:52:18,829 --> 00:52:16,160
and it's a radiant light so every

1467
00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:18,839
culture that has ever risen to any kind

1468
00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:20,760
of significance keeps trying to tell

1469
00:52:24,829 --> 00:52:22,500
this story and I think it's only later

1470
00:52:26,990 --> 00:52:24,839
that the story got obscured and you

1471
00:52:28,250 --> 00:52:27,000
reminded me both of you reminded me of

1472
00:52:31,309 --> 00:52:28,260
an interesting story

1473
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:31,319
Romans like the Egyptians really kept a

1474
00:52:35,450 --> 00:52:32,880
lot of careful records

1475
00:52:37,609 --> 00:52:35,460
and wrote everything down and there's so

1476
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:37,619
many stories I got I had the incredible

1477
00:52:41,450 --> 00:52:39,599
privilege of interviewing Steven Skinner

1478
00:52:42,829 --> 00:52:41,460
a while back oh me too and he said this

1479
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:42,839
amazing story that I'd never heard about

1480
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:46,319
Egypt that Egypt was unconquerable for

1481
00:52:51,890 --> 00:52:48,960
centuries and there was some really

1482
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:51,900
clever Roman general who had this idea

1483
00:52:56,990 --> 00:52:54,240
that we're going to steal all of the

1484
00:52:58,910 --> 00:52:57,000
magical Scrolls in Egypt we're going to

1485
00:53:00,770 --> 00:52:58,920
take out all the magicians and we're

1486
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:00,780
going to separate them from their

1487
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,319
ability to do magic and it was the first

1488
00:53:09,290 --> 00:53:06,480
country or entity that was ever able to

1489
00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:09,300
conquer Egypt and the Romans to this day

1490
00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:10,980
and there's all kinds of Records in

1491
00:53:15,470 --> 00:53:12,900
ancient China and in England oddly

1492
00:53:17,390 --> 00:53:15,480
enough the ruling class whether it's

1493
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:17,400
true or not have always been terrified

1494
00:53:22,010 --> 00:53:19,440
of people who are practicing magic

1495
00:53:23,870 --> 00:53:22,020
outside of a government authorized or

1496
00:53:26,450 --> 00:53:23,880
government sanctioned capacity

1497
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:26,460
and so in a weird way there has been

1498
00:53:32,030 --> 00:53:28,859
this kind of voice or this tendency to

1499
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:32,040
retract any examples or any magical

1500
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:36,000
manual so most of the magical Scrolls in

1501
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,640
Egypt were stolen taken by the Romans

1502
00:53:43,010 --> 00:53:40,559
and that continued you know a lot of the

1503
00:53:45,530 --> 00:53:43,020
Roman hierarchy went into the English

1504
00:53:48,770 --> 00:53:45,540
accent world and that fear of people

1505
00:53:50,569 --> 00:53:48,780
doing magic in a freelance a rogue basis

1506
00:53:52,250 --> 00:53:50,579
is really there and whether or not

1507
00:53:53,870 --> 00:53:52,260
there's anything to it you can't escape

1508
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:53,880
the fact that they thought there was

1509
00:53:59,390 --> 00:53:55,440
something to it and they were terrified

1510
00:54:00,770 --> 00:53:59,400
of it and so uh a fascinating story that

1511
00:54:02,750 --> 00:54:00,780
oh and the other thing was that they

1512
00:54:04,849 --> 00:54:02,760
used to talk about how they hated the

1513
00:54:06,829 --> 00:54:04,859
gnostics because if you have this

1514
00:54:09,530 --> 00:54:06,839
certain degree of information like

1515
00:54:11,089 --> 00:54:09,540
basically the secret and esotericism is

1516
00:54:14,030 --> 00:54:11,099
the continuity of Consciousness through

1517
00:54:16,250 --> 00:54:14,040
multiple lives and if you stop

1518
00:54:18,170 --> 00:54:16,260
identifying with your meat body or your

1519
00:54:20,690 --> 00:54:18,180
meat wagon and you start identifying

1520
00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:20,700
with that thing that is you that Eternal

1521
00:54:24,530 --> 00:54:22,260
spark of Consciousness that's been

1522
00:54:27,290 --> 00:54:24,540
through a thousand bodies you know

1523
00:54:29,210 --> 00:54:27,300
suddenly you can't bully me anymore you

1524
00:54:31,790 --> 00:54:29,220
can't threaten me you can't control me

1525
00:54:33,710 --> 00:54:31,800
by fear because I know that I would

1526
00:54:36,530 --> 00:54:33,720
rather hold on to my principles and what

1527
00:54:38,450 --> 00:54:36,540
I know is true and my oath to be a

1528
00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:38,460
constructive force owner is I'm not

1529
00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:40,020
going to compromise any of those things

1530
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,579
just because you threatened to cut my

1531
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:43,680
head off because you know it's that

1532
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,839
whole idea of Obi-Wan and Darth Vader in

1533
00:54:51,049 --> 00:54:47,760
Star Wars it's such a deep part of our

1534
00:54:52,609 --> 00:54:51,059
Zeitgeist that if you have this broader

1535
00:54:54,650 --> 00:54:52,619
view that comes from being a magician or

1536
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,660
being a esotericist that I'm not the

1537
00:55:00,650 --> 00:54:56,640
thing that can die I'm this thing that

1538
00:55:03,530 --> 00:55:00,660
rides bodies like from body to body

1539
00:55:05,630 --> 00:55:03,540
over you know perhaps infinite amounts

1540
00:55:07,790 --> 00:55:05,640
of time you cannot be controlled or

1541
00:55:09,530 --> 00:55:07,800
subjugated anymore and I think a big

1542
00:55:11,390 --> 00:55:09,540
part of the Industrial Age was that

1543
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:11,400
these Barons and these people who

1544
00:55:16,490 --> 00:55:13,680
control Society start looking at all of

1545
00:55:17,630 --> 00:55:16,500
us like you're not here to change things

1546
00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:17,640
you're not here to break through your

1547
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:19,260
new mental spaces you're here to work

1548
00:55:23,690 --> 00:55:20,880
you're here to be the workforce and we

1549
00:55:26,089 --> 00:55:23,700
don't want to we don't want the

1550
00:55:27,890 --> 00:55:26,099
workforce losing its homogenousness we

1551
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:27,900
don't want individual people you know

1552
00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:29,280
elevating themselves to a point where

1553
00:55:33,230 --> 00:55:31,020
they can't be controlled or where they

1554
00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:33,240
would invent a new technology that puts

1555
00:55:37,309 --> 00:55:35,460
the power structure out of business so

1556
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:37,319
for all kinds of reasons some of them

1557
00:55:41,390 --> 00:55:38,880
good and some of them extremely Petty

1558
00:55:42,890 --> 00:55:41,400
there does seem to be a hesitancy in

1559
00:55:45,890 --> 00:55:42,900
most governments

1560
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:45,900
to suppress magical tradition to

1561
00:55:50,750 --> 00:55:48,240
suppress actual magic it's the reason

1562
00:55:52,609 --> 00:55:50,760
why we can't you never turn on the TV

1563
00:55:54,170 --> 00:55:52,619
and hear someone talking about Kundalini

1564
00:55:55,730 --> 00:55:54,180
there's a fascinating thing about

1565
00:55:57,650 --> 00:55:55,740
Kundalini when you have a successful

1566
00:55:59,089 --> 00:55:57,660
Kundalini event one of the common

1567
00:56:01,549 --> 00:55:59,099
experiences that people have had a

1568
00:56:03,890 --> 00:56:01,559
Kundalini event report is they have this

1569
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,900
visit to the akashic records for a

1570
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,000
moment in the Kundalini experience you

1571
00:56:10,490 --> 00:56:08,640
merge with this plane of pure knowledge

1572
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:10,500
and depending on what you're able to

1573
00:56:15,890 --> 00:56:13,079
understand you will

1574
00:56:18,349 --> 00:56:15,900
get this download of this anomalous

1575
00:56:20,809 --> 00:56:18,359
degree and sophistication of knowledge

1576
00:56:22,490 --> 00:56:20,819
that it's like you've gone to school in

1577
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:22,500
three or four minutes at a Kundalini

1578
00:56:28,250 --> 00:56:25,200
experience takes so people amazing

1579
00:56:31,790 --> 00:56:28,260
people Napoleon Lawrence

1580
00:56:33,290 --> 00:56:31,800
who's the famous nurse Florence scale

1581
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:33,300
all kinds of crazy people you wouldn't

1582
00:56:37,069 --> 00:56:35,040
think about a lot of immortal poets

1583
00:56:39,290 --> 00:56:37,079
people who've had the Kundalini

1584
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:39,300
experience it's like it supercharges

1585
00:56:43,370 --> 00:56:41,040
them and they've had this experience

1586
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:43,380
they've danced with all knowledge and

1587
00:56:47,329 --> 00:56:45,839
they walk away operating at a higher

1588
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:47,339
level and the one thing that almost

1589
00:56:50,690 --> 00:56:49,200
nobody says after a Kundalini experience

1590
00:56:52,970 --> 00:56:50,700
is man let me go out and get a job and

1591
00:56:54,890 --> 00:56:52,980
work on an assembly line and sell my

1592
00:56:56,450 --> 00:56:54,900
life and efforts to someone else you

1593
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,460
become ungovernable you become

1594
00:57:00,170 --> 00:56:58,079
unbullyable you can become

1595
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:00,180
uncontrollable and you elevate out of

1596
00:57:04,190 --> 00:57:02,400
being a beast of burden you're no longer

1597
00:57:06,049 --> 00:57:04,200
a chicken or a cow

1598
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:06,059
and you start becoming a human you walk

1599
00:57:09,890 --> 00:57:07,920
upright on your feet whereas everyone

1600
00:57:11,329 --> 00:57:09,900
else is really I mean I don't mean to be

1601
00:57:14,270 --> 00:57:11,339
mean but most people operate on this

1602
00:57:15,970 --> 00:57:14,280
very you know milk cow kind of level of

1603
00:57:19,870 --> 00:57:15,980
country

1604
00:57:23,150 --> 00:57:19,880
especially around that remark

1605
00:57:24,530 --> 00:57:23,160
and so it's I I just personally I think

1606
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:24,540
that the reason why governments have

1607
00:57:27,890 --> 00:57:26,160
always been hesitant

1608
00:57:29,450 --> 00:57:27,900
and you know it hasn't always been that

1609
00:57:31,069 --> 00:57:29,460
way it's pretty much since all the

1610
00:57:32,569 --> 00:57:31,079
school books were Rewritten at the turn

1611
00:57:34,790 --> 00:57:32,579
of the century you know there were some

1612
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,800
Financial Powers the same conspiratorial

1613
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:36,720
families that everyone talks about

1614
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,359
killed Midwifery they withdrew all the

1615
00:57:43,069 --> 00:57:41,280
old esoteric books from the libraries

1616
00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:43,079
and from the schools and they would only

1617
00:57:50,089 --> 00:57:45,780
fund schools that agreed to teach out of

1618
00:57:51,890 --> 00:57:50,099
these new authorized textbooks and in

1619
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:51,900
this one Fell Swoop at the beginning of

1620
00:57:55,790 --> 00:57:54,240
the Great Depression

1621
00:57:58,010 --> 00:57:55,800
all of the old school books were

1622
00:58:00,290 --> 00:57:58,020
withdrawn and only the schools that

1623
00:58:02,930 --> 00:58:00,300
taught out of these new modern school

1624
00:58:05,329 --> 00:58:02,940
books so allopathic medicine instead of

1625
00:58:06,890 --> 00:58:05,339
homeopathic medicine and suppression of

1626
00:58:09,950 --> 00:58:06,900
the feminine principle an absolute

1627
00:58:12,530 --> 00:58:09,960
negation of magic painting the snake as

1628
00:58:14,510 --> 00:58:12,540
an as a bad thing you know how common it

1629
00:58:16,250 --> 00:58:14,520
is that a lot of middle of the road

1630
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:16,260
Christians see the snake symbolism or

1631
00:58:20,329 --> 00:58:18,240
the Baphomet and they freak out because

1632
00:58:22,130 --> 00:58:20,339
oh that's a symbol of Pure Evil and it's

1633
00:58:24,829 --> 00:58:22,140
not really that it's just that the

1634
00:58:26,809 --> 00:58:24,839
ruling class who doesn't want this

1635
00:58:28,849 --> 00:58:26,819
empowering technology falling in the

1636
00:58:30,589 --> 00:58:28,859
hands of workers they'll do whatever

1637
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,599
they can to suppress these things

1638
00:58:35,089 --> 00:58:32,640
withdraw the books at the turn of the

1639
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:35,099
century like 1800s 1900s

1640
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,680
none of this stuff was that secret this

1641
00:58:42,410 --> 00:58:39,839
phenomenal secret that's just it took me

1642
00:58:43,789 --> 00:58:42,420
20 years to figure out and took bread I

1643
00:58:46,609 --> 00:58:43,799
don't know what a weekend to figure out

1644
00:58:49,069 --> 00:58:46,619
but here's this Triad in your head the

1645
00:58:50,450 --> 00:58:49,079
pineal gland pituitary and Thalamus and

1646
00:58:52,609 --> 00:58:50,460
the pituitary and Thalamus both have

1647
00:58:55,490 --> 00:58:52,619
these little magnetic fields around them

1648
00:58:56,750 --> 00:58:55,500
and when you work on them enough you

1649
00:58:58,609 --> 00:58:56,760
increase the magnetic field until

1650
00:59:00,530 --> 00:58:58,619
eventually it may overlap kind of like

1651
00:59:02,750 --> 00:59:00,540
the vesica Pisces thing that everyone

1652
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:02,760
misunderstands when your two magnetic

1653
00:59:07,069 --> 00:59:04,799
fields overlap then you start developing

1654
00:59:08,270 --> 00:59:07,079
these higher attributes of Consciousness

1655
00:59:09,470 --> 00:59:08,280
like knowing what other people are

1656
00:59:10,970 --> 00:59:09,480
thinking or knowing what's going to

1657
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,980
happen before it happens and a million

1658
00:59:16,370 --> 00:59:12,480
other things that Hindus talk about this

1659
00:59:18,289 --> 00:59:16,380
quite a lot but for that reason that you

1660
00:59:20,089 --> 00:59:18,299
become ungovernable you become a wild

1661
00:59:21,650 --> 00:59:20,099
card and that you might very well in

1662
00:59:22,970 --> 00:59:21,660
those moments of epiphany you know

1663
00:59:25,609 --> 00:59:22,980
invent a new car that doesn't take

1664
00:59:27,170 --> 00:59:25,619
gasoline that runs on sunlight or it

1665
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:27,180
might occur to you that what's the whole

1666
00:59:30,170 --> 00:59:28,559
point of a hierarchy hierarchies are

1667
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:30,180
unnatural like hierarchies are good for

1668
00:59:34,670 --> 00:59:32,880
Animals monkeys and stuff but our whole

1669
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:34,680
society is based on hierarchy which is

1670
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:36,480
incredibly unfair it's an incredibly

1671
00:59:40,609 --> 00:59:39,119
unhealthy and when you do your first uh

1672
00:59:42,289 --> 00:59:40,619
the first time you smoke pot even but

1673
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:42,299
when you do a lot of psychedelics and

1674
00:59:45,289 --> 00:59:43,920
you start questioning why does there

1675
00:59:47,150 --> 00:59:45,299
have to be a hierarchy why do I have to

1676
00:59:49,010 --> 00:59:47,160
go and spend my days in an office

1677
00:59:51,170 --> 00:59:49,020
working for someone who has absolute

1678
00:59:54,349 --> 00:59:51,180
authority over me where my will doesn't

1679
00:59:56,930 --> 00:59:54,359
matter so many things about our modern

1680
00:59:59,150 --> 00:59:56,940
society really resemble a chicken farm

1681
01:00:00,349 --> 00:59:59,160
or a milk farm and we are just these

1682
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:00,359
beasts of Burden that are being

1683
01:00:08,270 --> 01:00:03,599
harvested for our energy and our ideas

1684
01:00:10,670 --> 01:00:08,280
and so there's this historical fear of

1685
01:00:12,049 --> 01:00:10,680
magic so yeah the Romans hated the

1686
01:00:13,549 --> 01:00:12,059
gnostics because they couldn't bully

1687
01:00:14,690 --> 01:00:13,559
them the gnostics said go ahead and kill

1688
01:00:16,370 --> 01:00:14,700
me I'll just you know I'll come back

1689
01:00:18,589 --> 01:00:16,380
again as you know

1690
01:00:20,930 --> 01:00:18,599
a Hindu girl next time or whatever and

1691
01:00:22,430 --> 01:00:20,940
they couldn't be bullied and the other

1692
01:00:24,289 --> 01:00:22,440
one more thing about I'm sorry this

1693
01:00:26,770 --> 01:00:24,299
turning into a screed but speaking of

1694
01:00:29,569 --> 01:00:26,780
Dick Cheney and um Bush and whatnot

1695
01:00:31,789 --> 01:00:29,579
that's another thing I wouldn't be

1696
01:00:33,230 --> 01:00:31,799
surprised to to hear that you know

1697
01:00:34,190 --> 01:00:33,240
they're not particularly esoteric people

1698
01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:34,200
but

1699
01:00:37,370 --> 01:00:35,940
I just watched I just wide shut the

1700
01:00:39,530 --> 01:00:37,380
other night again one thing I absolutely

1701
01:00:41,870 --> 01:00:39,540
believe happens is communication with

1702
01:00:44,450 --> 01:00:41,880
other entities non-physical entities and

1703
01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:44,460
sometimes some very dull dreary people

1704
01:00:49,069 --> 01:00:47,280
who are just nothing but sycophants to

1705
01:00:51,650 --> 01:00:49,079
these disembodied Powers you know you

1706
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:51,660
with a Ouija board or the right rituals

1707
01:00:55,789 --> 01:00:53,520
you can contact intelligences

1708
01:00:58,490 --> 01:00:55,799
and they might promise you Earthly

1709
01:01:00,650 --> 01:00:58,500
wealth and power in exchange for you

1710
01:01:02,329 --> 01:01:00,660
doing things for them and so I think a

1711
01:01:03,650 --> 01:01:02,339
lot of government people especially big

1712
01:01:04,910 --> 01:01:03,660
people who've changed the course of

1713
01:01:06,829 --> 01:01:04,920
humanity

1714
01:01:09,230 --> 01:01:06,839
aren't doing this because of their own

1715
01:01:11,569 --> 01:01:09,240
power they're doing it because

1716
01:01:14,089 --> 01:01:11,579
through rituals you can contact things

1717
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:14,099
that will tell you to do things that are

1718
01:01:18,890 --> 01:01:16,020
incredibly

1719
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:18,900
anxiety or horror or pain causing you

1720
01:01:22,609 --> 01:01:20,880
know the whole idea of our concept there

1721
01:01:25,309 --> 01:01:22,619
are higher entities that feed on our

1722
01:01:26,450 --> 01:01:25,319
pain so with regard to those people that

1723
01:01:28,670 --> 01:01:26,460
don't seem smart enough to be

1724
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,680
esotericists themselves I think it's

1725
01:01:32,930 --> 01:01:30,720
entirely possible that one of the things

1726
01:01:35,210 --> 01:01:32,940
that happens at those high levels of the

1727
01:01:37,450 --> 01:01:35,220
elite is if you are doing these rituals

1728
01:01:39,289 --> 01:01:37,460
to contact things and they tell you

1729
01:01:41,150 --> 01:01:39,299
long-term things that you should be

1730
01:01:42,410 --> 01:01:41,160
doing to society it might not be the

1731
01:01:45,170 --> 01:01:42,420
people themselves but they might be

1732
01:01:46,970 --> 01:01:45,180
acting on behalf of more malevolent

1733
01:01:48,829 --> 01:01:46,980
entities that feed on pain that's

1734
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:48,839
something that I'm not saying that I

1735
01:01:51,829 --> 01:01:49,920
would go to the stakes on that but it

1736
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:51,839
sure does explain why everything seems

1737
01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:53,280
to be broken and never wants to heal

1738
01:01:57,770 --> 01:01:55,920
that if you have you know it's unnatural

1739
01:01:59,030 --> 01:01:57,780
to make a cow produce so much milk or

1740
01:02:01,430 --> 01:01:59,040
betray this there's this thing you can

1741
01:02:03,950 --> 01:02:01,440
do to Wine you can disease a grape you

1742
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:03,960
can cause a disease in grapes on purpose

1743
01:02:07,970 --> 01:02:05,760
that makes them overproduce sugar when

1744
01:02:09,170 --> 01:02:07,980
the grapes hate it but the wine that you

1745
01:02:12,049 --> 01:02:09,180
have is this really beautiful kind of

1746
01:02:14,510 --> 01:02:12,059
dessert wine called botrytus wine and it

1747
01:02:15,950 --> 01:02:14,520
seems to me like Humanity has become one

1748
01:02:17,390 --> 01:02:15,960
of those things that something's feeding

1749
01:02:20,450 --> 01:02:17,400
off of us and it gets more nutrition

1750
01:02:22,370 --> 01:02:20,460
from us when we're miserable and you

1751
01:02:24,890 --> 01:02:22,380
know that word archons and that word

1752
01:02:27,289 --> 01:02:24,900
luge or David Lynch talked about it when

1753
01:02:29,329 --> 01:02:27,299
he talked about Garmin bosia that

1754
01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:29,339
fantastic scene and firewalk with me

1755
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:31,200
where these two higher entities are

1756
01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:33,359
fighting over this guy who's a lower

1757
01:02:37,010 --> 01:02:34,559
life form

1758
01:02:38,809 --> 01:02:37,020
and they are like his pain is mine it's

1759
01:02:41,210 --> 01:02:38,819
mine to eat it's not yours and they're

1760
01:02:44,750 --> 01:02:41,220
having a fight over who gets to eat the

1761
01:02:46,849 --> 01:02:44,760
pain and suffering of poor Leland so I I

1762
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:46,859
just a little commentary on what Brad

1763
01:02:50,750 --> 01:02:48,720
said that when you start thinking along

1764
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:50,760
those lines society makes a lot more

1765
01:02:55,130 --> 01:02:52,319
sense foreign

1766
01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:55,140
God what a what a can of worms to open

1767
01:02:59,390 --> 01:02:57,540
up at the Zero Hour oh yeah

1768
01:03:01,010 --> 01:02:59,400
real quick Greg I was going to say back

1769
01:03:03,049 --> 01:03:01,020
to your point that the interesting thing

1770
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:03,059
about that Genie concept is the idea

1771
01:03:06,890 --> 01:03:04,799
that goes back to Virtue and vice which

1772
01:03:08,809 --> 01:03:06,900
is like you said where it can go good or

1773
01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:08,819
bad for you you know if you the genie

1774
01:03:13,010 --> 01:03:11,339
can grant you these three wishes

1775
01:03:14,510 --> 01:03:13,020
if you've given device and you say I

1776
01:03:16,250 --> 01:03:14,520
want wealth money and power that maybe

1777
01:03:17,630 --> 01:03:16,260
your wishes be careful what you wish for

1778
01:03:19,309 --> 01:03:17,640
sort of thing whereas if you give into

1779
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:19,319
more virtue and you wish for sort of

1780
01:03:22,910 --> 01:03:21,359
beneficial things and then that Genie

1781
01:03:25,069 --> 01:03:22,920
helps you out a little bit more and sort

1782
01:03:27,230 --> 01:03:25,079
of harms you and also that idea of the

1783
01:03:28,910 --> 01:03:27,240
bottle the bottle being something that's

1784
01:03:30,650 --> 01:03:28,920
a fluid or even the glands of the body

1785
01:03:32,750 --> 01:03:30,660
being something that retains a fluid in

1786
01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:32,760
it and Vapor the genie comes out of the

1787
01:03:36,170 --> 01:03:34,380
bottle like like a vapor the bottle

1788
01:03:37,730 --> 01:03:36,180
might be the most important part of this

1789
01:03:39,170 --> 01:03:37,740
oddly enough the bottle and that

1790
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:39,180
particular shape of the bottle I'm sorry

1791
01:03:43,069 --> 01:03:40,559
to interrupt no go ahead James go ahead

1792
01:03:44,809 --> 01:03:43,079
well largely because of some of Brad's

1793
01:03:46,670 --> 01:03:44,819
discoveries there's this thing in all of

1794
01:03:49,609 --> 01:03:46,680
alchemy but it talks about the ethanol

1795
01:03:51,770 --> 01:03:49,619
or ethane or and in the English History

1796
01:03:54,349 --> 01:03:51,780
you know the Holy Grail The Chalice the

1797
01:03:55,730 --> 01:03:54,359
cup there's this part of your brain that

1798
01:03:57,470 --> 01:03:55,740
collects this certain kind of fluid

1799
01:04:00,049 --> 01:03:57,480
that's involved in the Kundalini process

1800
01:04:02,329 --> 01:04:00,059
and it looks like this bottle you're

1801
01:04:04,190 --> 01:04:02,339
it's The ventricle the third ventricle

1802
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:04,200
this is one of Brad's discoveries that

1803
01:04:07,549 --> 01:04:05,760
part of where Consciousness comes from

1804
01:04:10,010 --> 01:04:07,559
and the thing that accumulates this

1805
01:04:12,890 --> 01:04:10,020
magical fluid part of Kundalini

1806
01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:12,900
is that you go without sexual release

1807
01:04:17,210 --> 01:04:15,119
for a certain period of time and instead

1808
01:04:19,609 --> 01:04:17,220
of using these incredibly powerful

1809
01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:19,619
hormones and chemicals to create a new

1810
01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:21,540
life if you don't expend yourself

1811
01:04:24,829 --> 01:04:23,280
sexually for a period of time it starts

1812
01:04:26,809 --> 01:04:24,839
to build up and it starts to transform

1813
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:26,819
and very much if you know the metaphor

1814
01:04:30,109 --> 01:04:28,559
of alchemy this is what Alchemy is

1815
01:04:31,549 --> 01:04:30,119
actually talking about they you take

1816
01:04:33,770 --> 01:04:31,559
this stuff on your body hormones and

1817
01:04:35,289 --> 01:04:33,780
semen and blood and if you don't expend

1818
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:35,299
them if you do these certain yogic

1819
01:04:40,730 --> 01:04:38,760
Kundalini tantric activities this starts

1820
01:04:42,470 --> 01:04:40,740
to turn back on itself and instead of

1821
01:04:44,690 --> 01:04:42,480
going out of your body to create a life

1822
01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:44,700
it starts working on you and it improves

1823
01:04:47,990 --> 01:04:46,079
your brain and improves electrical

1824
01:04:50,089 --> 01:04:48,000
conductivity of your brain it makes you

1825
01:04:52,190 --> 01:04:50,099
heal faster your cellular repair rates

1826
01:04:55,250 --> 01:04:52,200
faster and now the place where this

1827
01:04:56,690 --> 01:04:55,260
takes place is this part of your brain

1828
01:04:58,130 --> 01:04:56,700
this is the third ventricle in the

1829
01:04:59,690 --> 01:04:58,140
fourth ventricle and when you look at it

1830
01:05:01,910 --> 01:04:59,700
from a certain view it looks exactly

1831
01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:01,920
like the Genie's bottle so in that

1832
01:05:05,089 --> 01:05:03,599
metaphor in this example of how every

1833
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:05,099
culture tells the story in a different

1834
01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:08,160
way if you have enough of this sexual

1835
01:05:11,930 --> 01:05:10,559
accumulation very much like wearing

1836
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:11,940
socks and rubbing your feet across the

1837
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:13,200
carpet you get this kind of weird

1838
01:05:16,849 --> 01:05:15,359
electrostatic energy that builds up you

1839
01:05:19,010 --> 01:05:16,859
go like if you can get up to like 90

1840
01:05:21,470 --> 01:05:19,020
days without an orgasm this

1841
01:05:23,630 --> 01:05:21,480
fundamentally strange thing happens to

1842
01:05:27,530 --> 01:05:23,640
you and you start becoming viable in a

1843
01:05:31,609 --> 01:05:27,540
Kundalini sense and weird weird things

1844
01:05:33,770 --> 01:05:31,619
will start happening to you and it

1845
01:05:36,650 --> 01:05:33,780
happened in this Holy Grail

1846
01:05:39,289 --> 01:05:36,660
and the genie in the metaphor is this

1847
01:05:41,569 --> 01:05:39,299
magical kind of property or this higher

1848
01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:41,579
Consciousness that can form it's the

1849
01:05:45,170 --> 01:05:43,440
genie in the bottle so if you go without

1850
01:05:47,150 --> 01:05:45,180
sexual expenditure for a certain period

1851
01:05:48,650 --> 01:05:47,160
of time and that's why you if you let it

1852
01:05:50,569 --> 01:05:48,660
get away from you if you rub first of

1853
01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:50,579
all rub the bottle hello you got to rub

1854
01:05:55,309 --> 01:05:52,920
the bottle to get the genie out if you

1855
01:05:57,410 --> 01:05:55,319
let the genie out in a bad way in an

1856
01:05:59,150 --> 01:05:57,420
uncontrolled fashion just like expanding

1857
01:06:00,650 --> 01:05:59,160
your sexuality in the middle of this

1858
01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:00,660
ritual where you're trying to go 90 days

1859
01:06:05,150 --> 01:06:03,599
you can really hurt yourself or if you

1860
01:06:07,250 --> 01:06:05,160
do it wrong you can go insane that

1861
01:06:09,410 --> 01:06:07,260
sexual accumulation sometimes just

1862
01:06:11,210 --> 01:06:09,420
drives a person insane or amplifies

1863
01:06:13,309 --> 01:06:11,220
whatever imperfections they have in them

1864
01:06:14,809 --> 01:06:13,319
so the metaphor of the genie in the

1865
01:06:17,329 --> 01:06:14,819
bottle is amazing that there literally

1866
01:06:19,370 --> 01:06:17,339
is this magical entity that you can grow

1867
01:06:21,230 --> 01:06:19,380
within yourself in the Genies bottle

1868
01:06:23,150 --> 01:06:21,240
which is just this central part of your

1869
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:23,160
brain that happens to be that exact

1870
01:06:26,930 --> 01:06:25,680
shape and so that's a fascinating thing

1871
01:06:28,250 --> 01:06:26,940
to me and thank you for bringing that up

1872
01:06:30,109 --> 01:06:28,260
great because you really struck at the

1873
01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:30,119
heart of our show when you talk about

1874
01:06:33,049 --> 01:06:31,680
that and that's just one example of

1875
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:33,059
millions well hundreds of different

1876
01:06:37,609 --> 01:06:35,760
cultures who all tell the secret in a

1877
01:06:39,890 --> 01:06:37,619
different way and it's all sort of

1878
01:06:41,569 --> 01:06:39,900
hidden under layers of metaphor but if

1879
01:06:43,490 --> 01:06:41,579
you know what you're looking at and you

1880
01:06:44,990 --> 01:06:43,500
understand what these symbols say every

1881
01:06:46,910 --> 01:06:45,000
one of the cultures have these key

1882
01:06:48,890 --> 01:06:46,920
symbols that are signposts that say Hey

1883
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:48,900
this is a Kundalini metaphor and it

1884
01:06:51,950 --> 01:06:50,640
always has to do with the third eye that

1885
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:51,960
place where if you look right at the

1886
01:06:55,789 --> 01:06:53,520
third eye and if your head was invisible

1887
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:55,799
directly behind that is where your the

1888
01:06:58,970 --> 01:06:57,599
third ventricle is and if you look at it

1889
01:07:01,910 --> 01:06:58,980
from the side as Brad and Gary

1890
01:07:04,190 --> 01:07:01,920
demonstrated your diencephalon the brain

1891
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,200
as it looks from the side is exactly

1892
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,240
these combination of shapes and the

1893
01:07:09,470 --> 01:07:07,920
place where the magic happens the place

1894
01:07:11,390 --> 01:07:09,480
where there's a sexual accumulation is

1895
01:07:14,210 --> 01:07:11,400
transmuted into this higher whatever

1896
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:14,220
magical Elixir for Consciousness and for

1897
01:07:18,770 --> 01:07:16,799
the bridal chamber of the thalamus the

1898
01:07:20,750 --> 01:07:18,780
bridegroom and the Bride come together

1899
01:07:22,910 --> 01:07:20,760
where the chemical wedding takes place

1900
01:07:24,589 --> 01:07:22,920
exactly right so that is it that's the

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01:07:26,270 --> 01:07:24,599
secret of human life and we we just gave

1902
01:07:28,690 --> 01:07:26,280
it away for free folks enjoy you'll

1903
01:07:30,890 --> 01:07:28,700
never hear that on any other show

1904
01:07:32,750 --> 01:07:30,900
also by the way can I say one more thing

1905
01:07:34,370 --> 01:07:32,760
the reason the world is ending was this

1906
01:07:35,870 --> 01:07:34,380
stuff was supposed to stay secret and

1907
01:07:37,609 --> 01:07:35,880
every time humanity discovers this

1908
01:07:39,950 --> 01:07:37,619
secret it has to be destroyed and start

1909
01:07:41,809 --> 01:07:39,960
over again so on behalf of Brad and

1910
01:07:43,849 --> 01:07:41,819
myself we're genuinely sorry that we

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01:07:46,069 --> 01:07:43,859
brought about the apocalypse and

1912
01:07:47,930 --> 01:07:46,079
publicizing this information it happens

1913
01:07:50,750 --> 01:07:47,940
I thought it was the vaccine but yeah

1914
01:07:52,970 --> 01:07:50,760
sure it could be that no the vaccine had

1915
01:07:55,010 --> 01:07:52,980
to happen because of the secrets oh yeah

1916
01:07:56,569 --> 01:07:55,020
that's uh yep they corrupted the DNA

1917
01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:56,579
because the secrets were out well you

1918
01:08:01,970 --> 01:07:59,280
are on season three so you've had some

1919
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:01,980
time to uh to Johnny Appleseed this

1920
01:08:06,829 --> 01:08:04,079
stuff out to the people

1921
01:08:08,210 --> 01:08:06,839
um man just so amazing I just want to

1922
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:08,220
say sorry sorry for the end of the world

1923
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:11,520
apology accepted it had to go it had to

1924
01:08:15,470 --> 01:08:13,140
go at some point

1925
01:08:18,410 --> 01:08:15,480
um but yeah this has just been really

1926
01:08:19,849 --> 01:08:18,420
fun and so many thoughts about the last

1927
01:08:22,430 --> 01:08:19,859
few things you said but I'm going to be

1928
01:08:25,970 --> 01:08:22,440
respectful of your time and and and bite

1929
01:08:29,689 --> 01:08:25,980
my tongue here but but magical Egypt is

1930
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:29,699
a really amazing series The visuals the

1931
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:32,040
the graphics where you overlay the

1932
01:08:37,070 --> 01:08:34,319
statues with the parts of the brain it

1933
01:08:39,289 --> 01:08:37,080
makes it undeniable I really think you

1934
01:08:42,769 --> 01:08:39,299
guys should be proud of yourself with

1935
01:08:44,809 --> 01:08:42,779
pushing not only the understanding of of

1936
01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:44,819
ancient Egypt and their culture further

1937
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:47,520
but just brushing right past the

1938
01:08:51,950 --> 01:08:49,920
egyptologists the authorities who have

1939
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:51,960
tried to keep this stuff secret making

1940
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:53,520
us think that they were just some

1941
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:54,960
primitive

1942
01:08:59,689 --> 01:08:57,839
slave culture Dragon blocks around just

1943
01:09:01,729 --> 01:08:59,699
because you know our modern Elite have

1944
01:09:04,249 --> 01:09:01,739
no respect for us I don't know if that

1945
01:09:06,349 --> 01:09:04,259
was always the case I mean there's a

1946
01:09:09,229 --> 01:09:06,359
case to be made that if you go through

1947
01:09:11,450 --> 01:09:09,239
this system maybe we weren't LED maybe

1948
01:09:13,550 --> 01:09:11,460
they weren't led by the least among them

1949
01:09:15,890 --> 01:09:13,560
they were led by the people who actually

1950
01:09:18,050 --> 01:09:15,900
had the balls to go out to the furthest

1951
01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:18,060
edges of Consciousness and that would be

1952
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:19,920
quite a paradigm to actually respect

1953
01:09:24,110 --> 01:09:21,600
one's leaders and think that they had

1954
01:09:26,510 --> 01:09:24,120
some kind of Merit but man

1955
01:09:28,249 --> 01:09:26,520
either way just amazing stuff and it's

1956
01:09:29,930 --> 01:09:28,259
been a pleasure talking to you guys what

1957
01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:29,940
do you want to leave the people with in

1958
01:09:34,010 --> 01:09:32,400
terms of links or info about watching

1959
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:34,020
the series or anything else you got

1960
01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:37,440
going on maybe plans for a series four

1961
01:09:41,450 --> 01:09:39,600
one of the things that we're going to do

1962
01:09:44,150 --> 01:09:41,460
we there's a series four and it's about

1963
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,160
formal magic and includes a lot of the

1964
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:46,560
superstars of your show Greg Peter Mark

1965
01:09:51,229 --> 01:09:49,440
Adams Gordon Steven Skinner the

1966
01:09:53,329 --> 01:09:51,239
remarkable magic historian Stephen

1967
01:09:55,490 --> 01:09:53,339
Skinner and a bunch of other people on

1968
01:09:57,770 --> 01:09:55,500
ducat we haven't seen lawn in a while so

1969
01:10:00,050 --> 01:09:57,780
it's a very focused study of magic

1970
01:10:01,610 --> 01:10:00,060
operative magic and how that's another

1971
01:10:03,290 --> 01:10:01,620
thing like Kundalini that's been

1972
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:03,300
incredibly suppressed

1973
01:10:10,490 --> 01:10:07,679
but beyond that we are looking at taking

1974
01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:10,500
just the artistic stuff and possibly

1975
01:10:15,050 --> 01:10:13,199
doing a feature film uh we're certainly

1976
01:10:17,450 --> 01:10:15,060
made some inroads and I've done some

1977
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:17,460
basic work on taking the discoveries

1978
01:10:21,770 --> 01:10:19,920
that we found and doing a feature film

1979
01:10:23,810 --> 01:10:21,780
that just presents the artistic

1980
01:10:27,310 --> 01:10:23,820
discoveries that's in its very early

1981
01:10:29,810 --> 01:10:27,320
phases but you can watch the series at

1982
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:29,820
www.magicalegypt.com and if you go to

1983
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:31,440
YouTube and you want to watch bits of

1984
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:35,040
magical Egypt or promos or hours of Brad

1985
01:10:38,990 --> 01:10:37,920
and I speaking in an incredibly engaging

1986
01:10:41,330 --> 01:10:39,000
manner

1987
01:10:42,890 --> 01:10:41,340
it's all there on YouTube Type in

1988
01:10:45,050 --> 01:10:42,900
magical Egypt Brad and I just did an

1989
01:10:47,870 --> 01:10:45,060
extended discussion of a presentation of

1990
01:10:49,130 --> 01:10:47,880
our discoveries in a new uh YouTube that

1991
01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:49,140
just went up a few days ago called

1992
01:10:53,330 --> 01:10:51,120
sympathy from the Baphomet

1993
01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:53,340
it's an interesting new development that

1994
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:55,140
just the way all these other statues

1995
01:10:59,630 --> 01:10:56,640
from different periods of time were

1996
01:11:01,850 --> 01:10:59,640
actually depictions of the brain stem

1997
01:11:03,410 --> 01:11:01,860
the Baphomet figure we just demonstrated

1998
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:03,420
is another one of those actual

1999
01:11:06,290 --> 01:11:04,560
schematics where if you take the

2000
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:06,300
Baphomet and overlay it over a cutaway

2001
01:11:10,669 --> 01:11:09,120
of the brain it is exactly the shape

2002
01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:10,679
that you see in the middle of your head

2003
01:11:14,930 --> 01:11:12,719
and it completely throws this whole idea

2004
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:14,940
of the Baphomet being a symbol of evil

2005
01:11:19,010 --> 01:11:16,800
all these people have postured and

2006
01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:19,020
virtue signaled about oh this is awful

2007
01:11:21,470 --> 01:11:20,159
watch out for this and they've

2008
01:11:23,870 --> 01:11:21,480
completely misunderstood the fact that

2009
01:11:26,930 --> 01:11:23,880
the Baphomet art is just another in this

2010
01:11:29,570 --> 01:11:26,940
series of artworks throughout time that

2011
01:11:31,490 --> 01:11:29,580
have been trying to direct us to the

2012
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:31,500
real Divinity in the universe which is

2013
01:11:35,930 --> 01:11:33,600
consciousness and the biological places

2014
01:11:37,790 --> 01:11:35,940
where it doesn't arise from

2015
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:37,800
Consciousness but the biological areas

2016
01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:39,600
that are associated with the experience

2017
01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:41,520
of Consciousness and it just it all

2018
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:43,679
speaks to the fact that the one thing we

2019
01:11:47,930 --> 01:11:45,840
can't describe in Western science is

2020
01:11:50,209 --> 01:11:47,940
consciousness and and the old cultures

2021
01:11:52,010 --> 01:11:50,219
it was the seed from which everything

2022
01:11:54,169 --> 01:11:52,020
else sprang and so

2023
01:11:56,750 --> 01:11:54,179
we can't describe it to this day but the

2024
01:12:00,169 --> 01:11:56,760
Ancients seem to vary quite neatly

2025
01:12:02,689 --> 01:12:00,179
schematize it and show it to you like a

2026
01:12:05,570 --> 01:12:02,699
mirror and it's not just for that sake

2027
01:12:07,370 --> 01:12:05,580
but it's that this is human Destiny and

2028
01:12:08,990 --> 01:12:07,380
the reason you feel so empty in the

2029
01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:09,000
reason that nothing makes sense is that

2030
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:10,080
the most important thing in the human

2031
01:12:14,090 --> 01:12:11,760
experience has been for some reason

2032
01:12:15,709 --> 01:12:14,100
we've talked about a couple of theories

2033
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:15,719
about why this might be the most

2034
01:12:19,310 --> 01:12:17,040
important thing about being a human has

2035
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:19,320
been extracted from us so that we have

2036
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:21,600
nothing but to work and be consumers and

2037
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:23,280
to you know buy things to fill the hole

2038
01:12:26,990 --> 01:12:24,960
in our heart and that hole wouldn't be

2039
01:12:28,910 --> 01:12:27,000
there if we hadn't had this intellectual

2040
01:12:30,830 --> 01:12:28,920
Heritage like our Birthright our

2041
01:12:32,689 --> 01:12:30,840
intellectual spiritual Birthright taken

2042
01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:32,699
away from us and if you were to find out

2043
01:12:35,689 --> 01:12:34,320
that there is an owner's manual for the

2044
01:12:38,030 --> 01:12:35,699
human psyche

2045
01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:38,040
why wouldn't you want to find out about

2046
01:12:43,070 --> 01:12:39,600
that and that's the very thing that's

2047
01:12:44,090 --> 01:12:43,080
suppressed and absolutely denied and I

2048
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:44,100
just find that the most interesting

2049
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:46,080
thing in the world and the anarchist in

2050
01:12:49,850 --> 01:12:48,239
me would like to see a world where

2051
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:49,860
people stop listening to the authorities

2052
01:12:53,270 --> 01:12:51,840
that tell you it's not there it's like

2053
01:12:54,649 --> 01:12:53,280
this thing that's in your house go and

2054
01:12:56,750 --> 01:12:54,659
explore it find out for yourself don't

2055
01:12:59,390 --> 01:12:56,760
just take someone else's word for it

2056
01:13:01,250 --> 01:12:59,400
and I'll say this just real quick before

2057
01:13:03,649 --> 01:13:01,260
we go here Greg thank you so much for

2058
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:03,659
having us on and for watching the show

2059
01:13:06,410 --> 01:13:04,800
and picking up what we're putting down

2060
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:06,420
like I said it's been a slow burn since

2061
01:13:10,250 --> 01:13:08,159
we've put this out so the more eyes and

2062
01:13:12,770 --> 01:13:10,260
binds we can get on this stuff is super

2063
01:13:14,570 --> 01:13:12,780
helpful and we wouldn't be doing any

2064
01:13:16,490 --> 01:13:14,580
stuff if it wasn't just standing on the

2065
01:13:18,890 --> 01:13:16,500
shoulders of John Anthony West so it's

2066
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:18,900
more sort of like continuing his legacy

2067
01:13:22,610 --> 01:13:20,880
and continuing his work and building on

2068
01:13:24,110 --> 01:13:22,620
that so it's the more people we can get

2069
01:13:26,990 --> 01:13:24,120
looking at this stuff the more people we

2070
01:13:28,970 --> 01:13:27,000
can get eyeballs on magical Egypt and on

2071
01:13:30,350 --> 01:13:28,980
John and how we're just continuing to

2072
01:13:32,330 --> 01:13:30,360
build that sort of the foundation that

2073
01:13:33,530 --> 01:13:32,340
John set up for all of us he knocked

2074
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,540
down the wall and we're all walking on

2075
01:13:37,070 --> 01:13:35,520
the path and so I just wanted to say

2076
01:13:38,990 --> 01:13:37,080
thank you very much for reaching out and

2077
01:13:40,370 --> 01:13:39,000
for having us on and letting us ramble

2078
01:13:42,770 --> 01:13:40,380
and talk about this stuff

2079
01:13:44,750 --> 01:13:42,780
of course of course I really appreciate

2080
01:13:47,810 --> 01:13:44,760
what you guys have done and I'm so happy

2081
01:13:50,750 --> 01:13:47,820
I could have you here I mean any THC fan

2082
01:13:52,729 --> 01:13:50,760
would love magical Egypt as chance said

2083
01:13:55,490 --> 01:13:52,739
a lot of our guests are just peppered

2084
01:13:57,110 --> 01:13:55,500
throughout that lineup and it's amazing

2085
01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:57,120
I'm I'm lucky to even be on the

2086
01:14:01,790 --> 01:14:00,239
outskirts of uh these really genius

2087
01:14:04,850 --> 01:14:01,800
level thinkers today these

2088
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:04,860
counterculture people but amazing work

2089
01:14:09,770 --> 01:14:07,440
really insightful thanks for doing this

2090
01:14:11,090 --> 01:14:09,780
and take care fellas good on you thank

2091
01:14:16,090 --> 01:14:11,100
you

2092
01:14:21,709 --> 01:14:19,010
two shows in a row that's got to be

2093
01:14:22,850 --> 01:14:21,719
pretty rare but chance and Brad how

2094
01:14:24,830 --> 01:14:22,860
about that

2095
01:14:27,290 --> 01:14:24,840
I'm sure a lot of you guys are familiar

2096
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:27,300
with the magical Egypt series I had

2097
01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:29,040
definitely seen the first season but

2098
01:14:33,290 --> 01:14:31,440
kind of fell off after that and I'm

2099
01:14:35,810 --> 01:14:33,300
really psyched how this interview turned

2100
01:14:38,330 --> 01:14:35,820
out I don't think a lot of our audience

2101
01:14:40,850 --> 01:14:38,340
would be surprised by the revelations to

2102
01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:40,860
come out of the series in Seasons two

2103
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:42,000
and three

2104
01:14:48,590 --> 01:14:46,320
but to have what I consider 100 or 95

2105
01:14:50,930 --> 01:14:48,600
definitive proof that a lot of these

2106
01:14:53,149 --> 01:14:50,940
symbols and art motifs are encoding

2107
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:53,159
specific parts of the brain

2108
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:54,719
that's really great

2109
01:14:59,450 --> 01:14:56,880
of course when you're taking two things

2110
01:15:02,090 --> 01:14:59,460
and holding them up and saying this is

2111
01:15:05,630 --> 01:15:02,100
an artistic representation of that

2112
01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:05,640
it's subjective some people will think

2113
01:15:11,630 --> 01:15:08,280
it's a dead-on match and others won't

2114
01:15:13,910 --> 01:15:11,640
but when you see a dozen examples or

2115
01:15:16,490 --> 01:15:13,920
more it gets pretty tough to deny

2116
01:15:19,970 --> 01:15:16,500
and then you add in the Sumerian icons

2117
01:15:22,430 --> 01:15:19,980
and it's like whoa this stuff goes back

2118
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:22,440
a long time

2119
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:24,480
so there were a couple references they

2120
01:15:28,750 --> 01:15:26,400
made to a talk they did together on

2121
01:15:31,250 --> 01:15:28,760
YouTube called Sympathy for the Baphomet

2122
01:15:33,709 --> 01:15:31,260
and I actually watched it before the

2123
01:15:35,209 --> 01:15:33,719
interview I was compelled by the title

2124
01:15:36,649 --> 01:15:35,219
since it really has nothing to do with

2125
01:15:38,990 --> 01:15:36,659
ancient Egypt

2126
01:15:42,890 --> 01:15:39,000
and what is really insane is that they

2127
01:15:45,770 --> 01:15:42,900
show an MRI cross section of the brain

2128
01:15:47,930 --> 01:15:45,780
like you take a brain and you slice it

2129
01:15:48,770 --> 01:15:47,940
down the middle into a top and bottom

2130
01:15:50,990 --> 01:15:48,780
half

2131
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:51,000
and then you get a bird's eye view of

2132
01:15:56,810 --> 01:15:53,040
the bottom half like you're trying to

2133
01:15:59,689 --> 01:15:56,820
get just that Center layer image

2134
01:16:03,950 --> 01:15:59,699
and the pattern it shows is

2135
01:16:06,350 --> 01:16:03,960
the elephus Levi Baphomet image

2136
01:16:09,169 --> 01:16:06,360
that classic depiction

2137
01:16:11,870 --> 01:16:09,179
it is definitely there it's like Levi

2138
01:16:13,550 --> 01:16:11,880
had an MRI image and then thought how do

2139
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:13,560
I fill this in to make it look like a

2140
01:16:16,490 --> 01:16:14,640
goat

2141
01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:16,500
if you're familiar with the image you

2142
01:16:20,870 --> 01:16:18,719
know he even has this rounded emblem

2143
01:16:23,570 --> 01:16:20,880
with the caduceus tucked into his pants

2144
01:16:24,770 --> 01:16:23,580
yeah that's there as well right in the

2145
01:16:26,750 --> 01:16:24,780
brain image

2146
01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:26,760
so what does that mean

2147
01:16:31,850 --> 01:16:30,239
did this mental image come to Levi did

2148
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:31,860
he do it on purpose or was it

2149
01:16:36,530 --> 01:16:33,360
subconscious

2150
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:36,540
did a spiritual being plant the image in

2151
01:16:39,530 --> 01:16:38,640
his mind as to say this is what I look

2152
01:16:46,970 --> 01:16:39,540
like

2153
01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:46,980
trickster would do

2154
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:49,679
however it happens it should show us

2155
01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:52,320
that the hyperbole over this symbol

2156
01:16:57,410 --> 01:16:55,380
being the most evil thing ever is a bit

2157
01:16:59,390 --> 01:16:57,420
overblown and silly

2158
01:17:01,130 --> 01:16:59,400
it kind of makes me think of Lone Milo

2159
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:01,140
dickette's book it's all inside your

2160
01:17:04,729 --> 01:17:03,360
head you just have no idea how big your

2161
01:17:07,070 --> 01:17:04,739
head is

2162
01:17:09,890 --> 01:17:07,080
but I also liked how this one tied in

2163
01:17:12,649 --> 01:17:09,900
with Dr Joanna kuyava

2164
01:17:16,130 --> 01:17:12,659
obviously there was some good overlap

2165
01:17:18,169 --> 01:17:16,140
there's a couple of episodes in magical

2166
01:17:20,450 --> 01:17:18,179
Egypt season three where I think in some

2167
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:20,460
places it's called series X on the

2168
01:17:25,070 --> 01:17:22,800
website it's a little confusing but some

2169
01:17:26,930 --> 01:17:25,080
Kundalini experiencers talk about what

2170
01:17:29,630 --> 01:17:26,940
it was like and I just thought how do

2171
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:29,640
these guys and Dr Joanna not know each

2172
01:17:32,209 --> 01:17:30,480
other

2173
01:17:33,530 --> 01:17:32,219
so as soon as I'm done here I'm going to

2174
01:17:35,750 --> 01:17:33,540
try to put them in touch for sure

2175
01:17:38,689 --> 01:17:35,760
because I think they would get along

2176
01:17:39,770 --> 01:17:38,699
great and are really after the same kind

2177
01:17:41,209 --> 01:17:39,780
of material

2178
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:41,219
and then when a couple of those

2179
01:17:46,130 --> 01:17:43,679
experiencers say it's like accessing the

2180
01:17:48,830 --> 01:17:46,140
akashic record I mean

2181
01:17:51,050 --> 01:17:48,840
all bets are off at that point

2182
01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:51,060
why is this stuff valuable where do

2183
01:17:54,830 --> 01:17:52,860
these symbols come from

2184
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:54,840
well there it is

2185
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:57,360
if this experience can be a portal to

2186
01:18:03,770 --> 01:18:01,679
the information field then wow

2187
01:18:07,130 --> 01:18:03,780
and if this kind of experience can be

2188
01:18:09,169 --> 01:18:07,140
arrived at by entheogens various rituals

2189
01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:09,179
and even sex with a woman

2190
01:18:14,270 --> 01:18:11,520
maybe an initiated woman who knows how

2191
01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:14,280
to make it happen more regularly

2192
01:18:19,610 --> 01:18:16,320
well the endogens you can just make

2193
01:18:21,229 --> 01:18:19,620
illegal the rituals you can retire and

2194
01:18:24,050 --> 01:18:21,239
then you can encourage people to be

2195
01:18:25,610 --> 01:18:24,060
super prude and ashamed about sex and

2196
01:18:28,010 --> 01:18:25,620
even make a rule that you shouldn't have

2197
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:28,020
sex until you're married and then stop

2198
01:18:32,030 --> 01:18:30,239
teaching that practice and remove the

2199
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:32,040
female goddesses that encoded this

2200
01:18:36,290 --> 01:18:33,120
pathway

2201
01:18:38,330 --> 01:18:36,300
and that's about as far as you can go to

2202
01:18:39,950 --> 01:18:38,340
really suppress the power of Altered

2203
01:18:42,050 --> 01:18:39,960
States Of Consciousness and that's

2204
01:18:44,330 --> 01:18:42,060
exactly what we see that is the clamp

2205
01:18:46,850 --> 01:18:44,340
down in a nutshell

2206
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:46,860
and the making of ritual spaces where

2207
01:18:51,709 --> 01:18:48,960
you could just make contact with beans

2208
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:51,719
or the field itself on command

2209
01:18:55,970 --> 01:18:53,520
well now you just jailbroke the

2210
01:18:58,729 --> 01:18:55,980
simulation I love it

2211
01:19:01,370 --> 01:18:58,739
and I wonder how many of those types of

2212
01:19:03,890 --> 01:19:01,380
spaces still exist or are still in

2213
01:19:07,250 --> 01:19:03,900
commission or are maybe hidden

2214
01:19:11,930 --> 01:19:07,260
beneath State Capitol Buildings or below

2215
01:19:14,930 --> 01:19:13,490
and you know when I was listening back

2216
01:19:17,090 --> 01:19:14,940
there was a part somewhere in there

2217
01:19:20,270 --> 01:19:17,100
where I mentioned primitive people or

2218
01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:20,280
people hanging out in Huts in the dirt

2219
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:22,140
and I was like damn I didn't mean for

2220
01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:24,719
that to sound so derogatory

2221
01:19:29,810 --> 01:19:27,360
I throw no intended shade to the dogon

2222
01:19:32,450 --> 01:19:29,820
or any other indigenous culture

2223
01:19:34,370 --> 01:19:32,460
I sometimes get pretty fast and loose

2224
01:19:36,590 --> 01:19:34,380
and Casual with the language but I hope

2225
01:19:38,270 --> 01:19:36,600
it's pretty damn obvious that over the

2226
01:19:41,570 --> 01:19:38,280
course of the show I've gained a lot of

2227
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,580
respect for those sorts of cultures

2228
01:19:46,130 --> 01:19:43,440
and it's episodes like this that give

2229
01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:46,140
the very reasons why and also make the

2230
01:19:51,830 --> 01:19:49,199
case that depending on how you define it

2231
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:51,840
in some areas they're more advanced and

2232
01:19:56,330 --> 01:19:54,000
more developed than we are now

2233
01:19:58,850 --> 01:19:56,340
but my favorite part of this show I

2234
01:20:01,189 --> 01:19:58,860
think it was in the first hour was that

2235
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:01,199
I loved Brad's point about dream

2236
01:20:06,530 --> 01:20:03,840
incubation and the nightly ritual we

2237
01:20:09,050 --> 01:20:06,540
wash ourselves we get into pajamas we

2238
01:20:10,729 --> 01:20:09,060
get into a dark room in a dark box and

2239
01:20:14,209 --> 01:20:10,739
lay still

2240
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:14,219
I mean kudos for that connection

2241
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:17,280
it's like we've discussed how in a lot

2242
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:19,440
of areas nature is showing us something

2243
01:20:24,350 --> 01:20:21,840
but we have to take the time to observe

2244
01:20:26,810 --> 01:20:24,360
and unpack it and this kind of feels

2245
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:26,820
like another example of that

2246
01:20:32,689 --> 01:20:30,000
the world and culture can get as big and

2247
01:20:35,330 --> 01:20:32,699
loud and distracting as it wants but we

2248
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:35,340
all have to sleep we have to wind down

2249
01:20:40,490 --> 01:20:38,159
we have to take a beat I of course sleep

2250
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:40,500
with the TV or a podcast on to keep the

2251
01:20:45,290 --> 01:20:43,199
mental chattered down but regardless

2252
01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:45,300
eventually there are nights where the

2253
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:47,280
phone's dead or you've watched

2254
01:20:50,570 --> 01:20:49,199
everything and you just gotta go down

2255
01:20:52,130 --> 01:20:50,580
with nothing

2256
01:20:55,250 --> 01:20:52,140
the fact that this is something that

2257
01:20:57,410 --> 01:20:55,260
happens every 24 hours of your life

2258
01:20:59,450 --> 01:20:57,420
the Stars will align eventually and

2259
01:21:02,630 --> 01:20:59,460
that's that kind of infinite patience

2260
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:02,640
that is just built into the system

2261
01:21:09,530 --> 01:21:06,480
it'll get you so I don't know I like

2262
01:21:11,689 --> 01:21:09,540
when subtler versions of big stuff just

2263
01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:11,699
seem encoded Into The Human Experience

2264
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:14,159
or the environment as if this system was

2265
01:21:19,850 --> 01:21:16,800
designed to coax us into those Avenues

2266
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,860
of thought and exploration and discovery

2267
01:21:23,450 --> 01:21:21,600
and then you see the cultures without

2268
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:23,460
the distractions of the western world

2269
01:21:28,189 --> 01:21:25,920
and Lucifer's modern Technologies like

2270
01:21:29,390 --> 01:21:28,199
the ancient Egyptians and it's like of

2271
01:21:31,970 --> 01:21:29,400
course they went this hard at

2272
01:21:35,330 --> 01:21:31,980
consciousness of course they did

2273
01:21:37,729 --> 01:21:35,340
so a lot of fun unexpected episode for

2274
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:37,739
sure good times check out the series

2275
01:21:42,110 --> 01:21:41,040
magical Egypt THC fans are bound to love

2276
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:42,120
it

2277
01:21:49,490 --> 01:21:47,280
half full on the gramerica event I'm

2278
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:49,500
hearing which means like a dozen spots

2279
01:21:53,930 --> 01:21:51,120
left or so

2280
01:21:55,970 --> 01:21:53,940
it is a weekend with me and them in a

2281
01:21:59,090 --> 01:21:55,980
cabin near Mount Shasta for the weekend

2282
01:22:01,550 --> 01:21:59,100
hikes presentations panel discussions q

2283
01:22:05,209 --> 01:22:01,560
and A's all kinds of fun stuff coming up

2284
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:05,219
in February contact thecabin.com for

2285
01:22:08,990 --> 01:22:06,239
more

2286
01:22:12,290 --> 01:22:09,000
maybe we'll even do some sort of e-city

2287
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:12,300
drum circle why the hell not right

2288
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:15,120
also not a huge deal but I did add a few

2289
01:22:19,370 --> 01:22:17,760
more crypto options to the list for THC

2290
01:22:21,229 --> 01:22:19,380
plus signups

2291
01:22:23,330 --> 01:22:21,239
I'll pretty much take any form of

2292
01:22:26,209 --> 01:22:23,340
payment I really don't care as long as

2293
01:22:29,810 --> 01:22:26,219
it's not inconvenient for me to get

2294
01:22:33,169 --> 01:22:29,820
but I added Ripple Solana Dogecoin and

2295
01:22:35,090 --> 01:22:33,179
Monero addresses to the official list of

2296
01:22:38,510 --> 01:22:35,100
options when you go through the prompts

2297
01:22:40,370 --> 01:22:38,520
to sign up Dogecoin even see That's how

2298
01:22:42,530 --> 01:22:40,380
little I actually care

2299
01:22:45,410 --> 01:22:42,540
naysayers want to say crypto is

2300
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:45,420
valueless nah pretty much any coin can

2301
01:22:49,970 --> 01:22:47,520
get you THC Plus

2302
01:22:51,709 --> 01:22:49,980
and speaking of plus as always the

2303
01:22:53,689 --> 01:22:51,719
second hour is double the pleasure

2304
01:22:56,270 --> 01:22:53,699
double the fun today we talked about

2305
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:56,280
ancient Cathedrals and temples as

2306
01:23:01,310 --> 01:22:59,280
gymnasiums for Consciousness being

2307
01:23:03,649 --> 01:23:01,320
pregnant with ideas

2308
01:23:05,870 --> 01:23:03,659
the connection between Altered States Of

2309
01:23:08,750 --> 01:23:05,880
Consciousness and flowing water

2310
01:23:10,850 --> 01:23:08,760
how power and the exploration of

2311
01:23:13,490 --> 01:23:10,860
Consciousness are connected through time

2312
01:23:14,330 --> 01:23:13,500
the Arabian myth of the genie in the

2313
01:23:17,209 --> 01:23:14,340
lamp

2314
01:23:20,030 --> 01:23:17,219
as well as the elite and contact with

2315
01:23:22,729 --> 01:23:20,040
entities that feed on our pain

2316
01:23:24,770 --> 01:23:22,739
so fun stuff the interviews always keep

2317
01:23:26,990 --> 01:23:24,780
going for Plus members sign up at the

2318
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:27,000
higher sidechats.com

2319
01:23:31,490 --> 01:23:28,800
and while you're there check out the

2320
01:23:33,169 --> 01:23:31,500
site search the archive by over 50

2321
01:23:36,530 --> 01:23:33,179
different subjects

2322
01:23:38,330 --> 01:23:36,540
buy some THC merch or t-shirts and you

2323
01:23:40,189 --> 01:23:38,340
can also leave me a voicemail for the

2324
01:23:42,290 --> 01:23:40,199
next joint session

2325
01:23:44,030 --> 01:23:42,300
as for the calendar at hireside

2326
01:23:46,610 --> 01:23:44,040
meetups.com

2327
01:23:49,310 --> 01:23:46,620
we have the Salida Moonlight Pizza

2328
01:23:52,430 --> 01:23:49,320
Meetup in Salida Colorado on September

2329
01:23:55,669 --> 01:23:52,440
30th we have the Milwaukee Oregon

2330
01:23:57,229 --> 01:23:55,679
metaphysical Society doing an aerospace

2331
01:24:00,649 --> 01:23:57,239
Expedition

2332
01:24:03,709 --> 01:24:00,659
field trip thing at the Evergreen

2333
01:24:07,010 --> 01:24:03,719
Aviation Museum seems fun

2334
01:24:09,470 --> 01:24:07,020
also on October 1st is the conspiracy

2335
01:24:11,870 --> 01:24:09,480
theorizers at High Springs Brewing

2336
01:24:13,970 --> 01:24:11,880
Company in High Springs Florida

2337
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:13,980
bring your sandbags

2338
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:16,320
October 5th the Waldo Higher Side

2339
01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:18,960
meetups at KC Beer Co in Kansas City

2340
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:20,159
Missouri

2341
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:23,520
October 6th the Los Angeles truthers go

2342
01:24:29,030 --> 01:24:25,760
on to Flame International the restaurant

2343
01:24:31,130 --> 01:24:29,040
on Santa Monica Boulevard in LA once

2344
01:24:33,050 --> 01:24:31,140
again I'm gonna try to make it to that

2345
01:24:35,330 --> 01:24:33,060
one you know these La things I like to

2346
01:24:36,350 --> 01:24:35,340
try October 6th I'm gonna mark it down

2347
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,360
right now

2348
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:38,880
and we'll end it with this one the

2349
01:24:45,770 --> 01:24:42,000
bizarre Tales podcast and THC York

2350
01:24:49,010 --> 01:24:45,780
Meetup in York Yorkshire United Kingdom

2351
01:24:51,290 --> 01:24:49,020
it says Lee and Dan from the bizarre

2352
01:24:53,870 --> 01:24:51,300
Tales podcast one of England's finest

2353
01:24:57,290 --> 01:24:53,880
paranormal podcasts will be

2354
01:25:00,770 --> 01:24:57,300
at York's famous haunted Golden Fleece

2355
01:25:03,169 --> 01:25:00,780
Pub okay now we're talking

2356
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:03,179
I love it always know that other shows

2357
01:25:08,030 --> 01:25:05,040
are welcome to use our Meetup calendar

2358
01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:08,040
as well as long as the event is free and

2359
01:25:11,209 --> 01:25:10,080
the subject matter of the show overlaps

2360
01:25:13,550 --> 01:25:11,219
with ours

2361
01:25:14,810 --> 01:25:13,560
I wish we had events every day so the

2362
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:14,820
more the merrier

2363
01:25:20,209 --> 01:25:17,280
tell your favorite show host to hop on

2364
01:25:22,910 --> 01:25:20,219
in there and they can get a free mention

2365
01:25:24,890 --> 01:25:22,920
on the air of THC on top of meeting some

2366
01:25:26,810 --> 01:25:24,900
of their audience and not having to

2367
01:25:28,550 --> 01:25:26,820
build out a site like this

2368
01:25:30,350 --> 01:25:28,560
makes sense to me

2369
01:25:32,930 --> 01:25:30,360
but that's pretty much it big thanks

2370
01:25:34,970 --> 01:25:32,940
again to chance and Brad Brad and chance

2371
01:25:37,790 --> 01:25:34,980
I'm really glad we were able to do this

2372
01:25:40,430 --> 01:25:37,800
I hope you guys check out the series and

2373
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:40,440
spread it changing the perception of

2374
01:25:44,750 --> 01:25:42,239
ancient Egypt and what people think of

2375
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:44,760
our ancestors is an important thing to

2376
01:25:48,890 --> 01:25:46,320
get them to see through the more

2377
01:25:52,250 --> 01:25:48,900
triggering deceptions of today it's

2378
01:25:55,070 --> 01:25:52,260
called operation Inception get involved

2379
01:25:57,649 --> 01:25:55,080
so there we go I've done my part your

2380
01:26:00,430 --> 01:25:57,659
move Egyptian culture concealers mind

2381
01:26:04,030 --> 01:26:00,440
State suppressors and Kundalini deniers

2382
01:26:08,209 --> 01:26:04,040
your move

2383
01:26:12,649 --> 01:26:08,219
this is important hear what I say

2384
01:26:14,750 --> 01:26:12,659
I'm trying to tell you it's not paranoia

2385
01:26:17,390 --> 01:26:14,760
not in my head

2386
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:17,400
it's just the hard truth

2387
01:26:24,169 --> 01:26:21,360
knocked on your door while I still can

2388
01:26:29,330 --> 01:26:24,179
to ask you a question

2389
01:26:31,610 --> 01:26:29,340
I know your head is still in the sand

2390
01:26:34,610 --> 01:26:31,620
don't be shaped to your Slaughter for

2391
01:26:36,649 --> 01:26:34,620
the rest of your life oh Presto pressed

2392
01:26:38,689 --> 01:26:36,659
but you're getting woke you say you

2393
01:26:42,290 --> 01:26:38,699
don't want to be stressed until the day

2394
01:26:45,649 --> 01:26:42,300
you die to flip my friend did you get

2395
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:45,659
the memo can't you say that we're so

2396
01:26:49,810 --> 01:26:47,040
screwed

2397
01:27:01,380 --> 01:26:49,820
don't you know

2398
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:03,850
[Music]

2399
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:06,719
don't think we'll be okay

2400
01:27:11,930 --> 01:27:16,610
[Music]

2401
01:27:23,810 --> 01:27:19,550
you sit and wish but we don't have a

2402
01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:23,820
choice it seems we're stuck here but you

2403
01:27:29,990 --> 01:27:27,360
can't find noses drown out the noise

2404
01:27:32,470 --> 01:27:30,000
now use that altar

2405
01:27:37,310 --> 01:27:32,480
end up your magic

2406
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:37,320
and listen to PhD you know you go with

2407
01:27:43,650 --> 01:27:53,110
[Music]

2408
01:27:59,040 --> 01:27:56,030
did you get the memo

2409
01:28:19,660 --> 01:28:02,649
[Music]

2410
01:28:34,500 --> 01:28:19,670
don't think we'll be okay

2411
01:28:49,550 --> 01:28:44,000
[Music]

2412
01:28:52,610 --> 01:28:49,560
don't be sheep till you Slaughter for

2413
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:52,620
the rest of your life go Presto pressed

2414
01:28:56,810 --> 01:28:54,719
but you're getting woke you say you

2415
01:29:00,169 --> 01:28:56,820
don't want to be stressed until the day

2416
01:29:03,709 --> 01:29:00,179
you die cause love for my friend did you

2417
01:29:05,030 --> 01:29:03,719
get the memo can't you say that we're so

2418
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:05,040
screwed

2419
01:29:21,850 --> 01:29:15,370
I'm gonna tell you this anyways

2420
01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:21,860
[Music]

2421
01:29:37,570 --> 01:29:25,450
don't think we'll be okay

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can't you see that we're so screwed

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and that is another show complete

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remember as much as you enjoyed this

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which is just the free first hour I hope

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you'll become a plus member to hear the

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full two-hour interviews you also can

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01:29:59,930 --> 01:29:57,360
engage with other Plus members in the

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comments and the forums and you'll find

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01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:01,260
your answer to one of the most common

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01:30:05,090 --> 01:30:03,360
questions I get which is where can I

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01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:05,100
find those cover songs that you use at

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01:30:09,350 --> 01:30:06,960
the end of the show well they are free

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downloads for Plus members too and

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without Plus members I can't hire the

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occasional musician to bring these odd

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01:30:17,930 --> 01:30:16,020
cover song ideas to fruition Plus

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members are how I'm able to do what I do

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01:30:22,669 --> 01:30:19,800
without ads and without the big machine

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01:30:24,770 --> 01:30:22,679
being on my back we can fit so much more

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01:30:26,570 --> 01:30:24,780
into a two-hour interview and I do my

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01:30:29,570 --> 01:30:26,580
best to make it worth your time and

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01:30:31,970 --> 01:30:29,580
money the conversation only gets deeper

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01:30:34,129 --> 01:30:31,980
weirder and more controversial in that

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01:30:35,330 --> 01:30:34,139
private hour how could it not the way

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things are going

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01:30:39,410 --> 01:30:37,260
but the best way to sign up is at the

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higher sidechats.com where new

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01:30:44,090 --> 01:30:41,940
first-time subscribers always get a free

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01:30:46,490 --> 01:30:44,100
7-Day trial because I'm just that

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01:30:48,350 --> 01:30:46,500
confident there's no PayPal on the

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01:30:50,510 --> 01:30:48,360
website but if you need to use PayPal

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01:30:52,010 --> 01:30:50,520
then sign up through patreon and you get

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01:30:54,229 --> 01:30:52,020
all the same episodes

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our website is a credit or debit system

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01:30:58,850 --> 01:30:55,980
but you can also scope out the other

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options like a few various cryptos cash

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or check mailed to the PO box and I'll

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01:31:04,970 --> 01:31:03,360
even barter with most people if you have

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01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:04,980
your own business and produce something

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01:31:09,950 --> 01:31:07,920
nice that my wife or kid or taste buds

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01:31:11,810 --> 01:31:09,960
might like but the architects of

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01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:11,820
consensus reality have made it clear

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that these themes and topics aren't

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really welcome on the main stage and so

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01:31:20,209 --> 01:31:18,179
this is how we secure a little Counter

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Culture corner for ourselves and I hope

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you'll join plus because that is the

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01:31:28,490 --> 01:31:25,199
only way it works besides you can cancel

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01:31:30,290 --> 01:31:28,500
anytime right on your profile page the

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01:31:32,990 --> 01:31:30,300
most common concern I hear is people

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01:31:35,390 --> 01:31:33,000
just being unsure if THC plus will work

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01:31:38,330 --> 01:31:35,400
with their podcast app and the answer is

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01:31:40,310 --> 01:31:38,340
probably yes but if not we have several

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01:31:42,290 --> 01:31:40,320
high-level app recommendations for

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whatever phone you use and the website

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01:31:46,490 --> 01:31:45,000
is made for mobile too we're trained to

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01:31:48,110 --> 01:31:46,500
tip a waitress for bringing us a

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01:31:50,930 --> 01:31:48,120
sandwich but that tip doesn't give you

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01:31:52,850 --> 01:31:50,940
access to a second sandwich really I'm

2481
01:31:54,830 --> 01:31:52,860
not asking for any more than that and I

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01:31:57,110 --> 01:31:54,840
think I offer a better service come get

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01:31:58,910 --> 01:31:57,120
your second serving of tasty conspiracy

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goodness in exchange for that small

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01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:01,560
token of your appreciation beyond that

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01:32:05,629 --> 01:32:03,600
let it also be known that we have grown

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and survived as long as we have By Word

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of Mouth I don't care so much about

2489
01:32:13,490 --> 01:32:10,380
social media likes or follows but tell

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01:32:15,590 --> 01:32:13,500
the right people about THC and not just

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01:32:17,450 --> 01:32:15,600
listeners but the high level figures who

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01:32:19,669 --> 01:32:17,460
are better suited to sit down with me

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01:32:21,530 --> 01:32:19,679
than most other hosts and if you can

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01:32:23,390 --> 01:32:21,540
help me with any of these things I can

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01:32:25,330 --> 01:32:23,400
work to bring you better shows which is

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01:32:27,649 --> 01:32:25,340
just a a win-win for both of us

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01:32:30,110 --> 01:32:27,659
informative entertaining and

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01:32:31,729 --> 01:32:30,120
action-packed it also never hurts to

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thank a guest you liked if you have the

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time either we want them to know people

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01:32:37,370 --> 01:32:35,100
are listening so they're willing to come

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01:32:39,530 --> 01:32:37,380
back down the road too thank you for